are jesus and god equal?

mee said:
Babylon the great is ...........the worldwide empire of false religion. the reason she is called babylon the great is because her doctrines are all based and have there roots in babylonish teachings . many different religions have their roots in babylonish teachings, but christendom is the most guilty as she claims to worship the God of the bible, but her doctrines are not based on true bible teachings they are steeped in babylonish doctrines. if we look at ancient babylon we can see the same things going on in false religion .
Though Babylon has long since ceased to exist as a world power, religious Babylon the Great lives on, and after the ancient pattern, she still seeks to influence and mold political affairs. But does God approve of religion in politics?
The call to "get out of her" had been set down in Revelation 18:4. There was a like call set down earlier in Jeremiah 51:45: "Get out of the midst of her, O my people, and provide each one his soul with escape from the burning anger of Jehovah." there is only one way to escape Jehovahs anger in these last days,and that is to get out of babylon the great and to let Jehovah take us in.babylon the great has fallen in that she nolonger has any power over Gods people.but her end is very near
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Are you stating that Christianity is a joke? That Christianity is false? And Jehovah's witnesses are the only truth?

I suspect Mee, that you just earned your way out of the Christian forum, and into "Abrahamic faiths".
 
mee said:
...christendom is the most guilty as she claims to worship the God of the bible, but her doctrines are not based on true bible teachings they are steeped in babylonish doctrines...
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Wow. :(
 
Quahom1 said:
You skirted the issue...there can not be two gods. Yet you say there can be. justify this please: "Jehovah is Almighty God, and Jesus is a Mighty God..."

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yes ,as you say there is only one ALMIGHTY GOD psalm 83;18 and this almighty God told us to listen to Jesus
(Luke 9:35) And a voice came out of the cloud, saying: "This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him."
 
mee said:
yes ,as you say there is only one ALMIGHTY GOD psalm 83;18 and this almighty God told us to listen to Jesus
(Luke 9:35) And a voice came out of the cloud, saying: "This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him."
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yes god said this is my son listen to him. jesus was for a moment in time not in heaven with god as god (see john 1:1) , he was on earth as god and man, until he was taken up back to glory to the right hand of god on the throne. no one sits on the throne but god (god the father and the lamb).
 
Quahom1 said:
Are you stating that Christianity is a joke? That Christianity is false? And Jehovah's witnesses are the only truth?

I suspect Mee, that you just earned your way out of the Christian forum, and into "Abrahamic faiths".
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true christianity is alive and well, false christianity is near its end.
 
mee said:
true christianity is alive and well, false christianity is near its end.
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yes the church that humbles itself at the feet of jesus christ our lord and saviour and continues the work of christ for the glory of god is alive and well.
 
BlaznFattyz said:
yes god said this is my son listen to him. jesus was for a moment in time not in heaven with god as god (see john 1:1) , he was on earth as god and man, until he was taken up back to glory to the right hand of god on the throne. no one sits on the throne but god (god the father and the lamb).
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yes as you say ,Jesus went to heaven to sit at the right hand side of God waiting for the time when his Father would give him the rulership and the kingdom and the dignity. and this happened in 1914 inline with bible prophecy and chronology, its all happening in this time of the end.Daniel 7;13-14
"I kept on beholding in the visions of the night, and, see there! with the clouds of the heavens someone like a son of man (Jesus)happened to be coming; and to the Ancient of Days (Jehovah God)he gained access, and they brought him(Jesus) up close even before that One.(Jehovah God) And to him (Jesus)there were given rulership and dignity and kingdom, that the peoples, national groups and languages should all serve even him. His rulership is an indefinitely lasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom one that will not be brought to ruin................yes Jesus is a reigning king he is the one with the legal right to this kingship,
Ezekiel 21:27.
its all happening in these the last days.
 
mee said:
and this happened in 1914 inline with bible prophecy and chronology, its all happening in this time of the end.
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this has no scriptural proof or backing and is date-setting which is something many attribute to false prophets, and i dont really see what this has to do with the topic at hand except for incessant preaching of watchtower doctrine which there is already a thread.
 
BlaznFattyz said:
yes the church that humbles itself at the feet of jesus christ our lord and saviour and continues the work of christ for the glory of god is alive and well.
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true, and the last thing that Jesus said to his disciples was this,
Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things."............................. matthew 28;19-20 yes , teaching them all the things that Jesus taught . when the active force of God is with his people the work goes on even under opposition.​
(Acts 1:8) but YOU will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon YOU, and YOU will be witnesses of me both in Jerusalem and in all Ju·de´a and Sa·mar´i·a and to the most distant part of the earth."
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. matthew 24;14
(Revelation 14:6) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people,..........yes humility works wonders in the eyes of the most high.​
 
BlaznFattyz said:
this has no scriptural proof or backing and is date-setting which is something many attribute to false prophets, and i dont really see what this has to do with the topic at hand except for incessant preaching of watchtower doctrine which there is already a thread.
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bible prophecy always comes true, and has in this time of the end. Jesus is a reigning king . i am welcoming this king with my symbolic palm branch .revelation 7;9-10
 
mee said:
Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And, look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things."............................. matthew 28;19-20 (Acts 1:8) but you will receive power when the holy spirit arrives upon you, and you will be witnesses of me..."
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you just explained the trinity. good job.
 
BlaznFattyz said:
ya for those that do not acknowledge that jesus is god.
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For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. John 3;16
(Romans 8:32) He who did not even spare his own Son but delivered him up for us all, why will he not also with him kindly give us all other things?
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(1 John 4:9) By this the love of God was made manifest in our case, because God sent forth his only-begotten Son into the world that we might gain life through him............. i think you will find that the bible teaches us that Jesus is Gods son . stick to the bible and we cant go wrong.
 
BlaznFattyz said:
yes it does, but you have nothing to do with it.
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true , i dont make prophecies God does, and the understanding about bible prophecies in these last days is abundant.
And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant." Daniel 12;4
 
mee said:
For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. John 3;16
(Romans 8:32) He who did not even spare his own Son but delivered him up for us all, why will he not also with him kindly give us all other things?
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(1 John 4:9) By this the love of God was made manifest in our case, because God sent forth his only-begotten Son into the world that we might gain life through him............. i think you will find that the bible teaches us that Jesus is Gods son . stick to the bible and we cant go wrong.
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i think you will find in order for god to save us he lowered himself as a man so that he could die for our sins, that love of god was made manifest, that grace of god was made manifest, that glory of god that men beheld was god in the flesh, aka jesus christ, aka the son of god. trying to say that jesus is not god when the bible says that jesus was always god and is always god is going against the bible.
 
BlaznFattyz said:
you just explained the trinity. good job.
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true bible teaching is the name of the father(Jehovah God)psalm 83;18 who sent his son Jesus John 3;16 and the holy spirit is the (active force of God )and the active force of God works wonders when it comes to accomplishing Gods purpose. great things can be accomplished when a work has the backing of the holy spirit.
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. matthew 24;14 no i didnt find any trinity teaching in the bible , as the teaching of Jesus did not include pagan teachings.
 
BlaznFattyz said:
trying to say that jesus is not god when the bible says that jesus was always god and is always god is going against the bible.
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if we stick to the bible we cant go wrong
"Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: ‘This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.’"—MATTHEW 3:17.
(Luke 9:35) And a voice came out of the cloud, saying: "This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him."
YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am. John 14;28

(John 20:17) Jesus said to her: "Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to MYGOD and your God.’"​


(1 Corinthians 11:3) But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the HEAD of the Christ is God.​

(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.​

(Philippians 2:6) who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be EQUAL to God. ................... trying to say that Jesus is God is going against the bible . Sticking to the bible leads us to everlasting life.​

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ John 17;3
 
mee said:
if we stick to the bible we cant go wrong
"Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: ‘This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.’"—MATTHEW 3:17.
(Luke 9:35) And a voice came out of the cloud, saying: "This is my Son, the one that has been chosen. Listen to him."
YOU heard that I said to YOU, I am going away and I am coming [back] to YOU. If YOU loved me, YOU would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am. John 14;28

(John 20:17) Jesus said to her: "Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to MYGOD and your God.’"​


(1 Corinthians 11:3) But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the HEAD of the Christ is God.​

(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.​

(Philippians 2:6) who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be EQUAL to God. ................... trying to say that Jesus is God is going against the bible . Sticking to the bible leads us to everlasting life.​

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ John 17;3
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your quotes are taken out of context of the bible as a whole to strip jesus christ of his divinity as god, when jesus was on earth he emptied himself of his heavenly glory he had with god as god, that is why he says during his time as man and god on earth that god the father in heaven was greater than he on earth. make no mistake that only god forgives, that is why christ forgave sins, only god is salvation, that is why jesus saves, only god is alpha an omega, that is why christ is the first and the last, only god is i am, that is why jesus said i am he.
 
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