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    What About Rama?

    all hindus know well that Raam and Krishna to be deified humans. even if the people dont, the scriptures of hinduism itsef says so. when you say X was deified, two things become implicit - 1) that he wasnt god right off the bat 2) now that he has been deified, he is to be considered god/god...
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    Will and Elst.

    no its not. its the fact that beneath the dress of christianity (not christian theology but christian festivals/rituals), lies the manenquin of paganism, that i wanted to point out in the thread. accepted answers - yes or no (if no, then explain how come) and though you yourself did not adopt...
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    What About Rama?

    Thanks. We do not believe that he was god. We also dont think he was born as god (prophet). We think god manifested the "super man" through him, the way he manifested the "enlightened man" through buddha. and for Bahai's to accept that hinduism has a divine origin - someone has to make such a...
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    What About Rama?

    its not Rama , its Raam. Raam and Krishna are deified mortals and are considered to be the incarnations of Vishnu as the Ideal Man and as the Super Man respectively. Brahman means "the only truth" in the world. When someone attains Moksha he/she becomes part of the brahman. its different from...
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    Will and Elst.

    aha ! so christians were already aware of the fact that they adopted pagan manenquins and dressed them up in christian garb ?? "tale" = a biblical story. for example the birth of Christ taking place on the exact day (the day of solstice) the pagans celebrated the feast of the invinsible sun...
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    Will and Elst.

    Indeed, and there certainly is an argument that this has happened to *some* degree - it is no secret that Christianity often sought to replace existing belief systems, rather than eradicate them (such as replacing ancient shrines with Christian churches) - but I would also argue that it is easy...
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    Zoroastrianism: Abrahamic or Eastern?

    the opposite isnt too wrong though http://www.zarathushtra.com/z/article/influenc.htm http://www.infidels.org/library/magazines/tsr/1994/4/4zoroa94.html http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/books/ait/ch46.htm go for 4.6.6. and...
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    Will and Elst.

    i didnt say the whole thing was adopted from pagan roots. i did say though, that pagan roots and rituals were adopted/incorporated INTO christianity. and biblical tales were woven around them (eg -solstice became birthday) incidentally will durant also said that. that christianity adopted...
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    Will and Elst.

    I am not impolite or rude nor do i cuss. i do make scything attacks and often talk tongue-in-cheek. adults usually do. ban me if you will - but pls supply a concrete reason. or say that tongue-in-cheek comments are not allowed either !! yes we have a christian's perspective. and thus we know...
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    the AIT - true or hoax of the century ???

    i too am keeping my fingers crossed.
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    Will and Elst.

    wow i had heard of racisim. now i know the religious equivalent of it. so paganism is lesser truth, lesser mode of reality and at best achieves a blind or obscure fumbling towards the divine, whilst christianity is the truth. wonder what the pagan members have to say to that. as also non-pagan...
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    Will and Elst.

    i dont get you. if you want to ban me then do so. but dont accuse me of lack of civility. last time i said a certain sect is "loony" - thats without knowning that they were reporesented here. now i call myself an idiot for oversimplifying and you say i am being aggressive??
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    Will and Elst.

    In this instance, I think there is a danger that you are dangerously over-simplifying the matter of the relationship between theology and culture. >>>> yes we are idiots, me will durant and koenraad elst. we oversimplify. For example, if a Christian were to take up Morris Dancing, would they...
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    the AIT - true or hoax of the century ???

    the first 2 lines dont conclusively prove anything. just your friends opinions. there is room for using the counter arguement for polital reasons yes. which dont make them lesser arguements tho.
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    Will and Elst.

    yes i guess they found it un-necessary to hold on to "cultural social events which had strong roots from pre-Christian times" - after introducing christianity to europe by adopting a lot of these same "cultural social events which had strong roots from pre-Christian times" (after giving it a...
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    the AIT - true or hoax of the century ???

    er/... where did you get the connection with "national socialism" ? and what "activities" are you talking about?? there are no extermination camps in india. besides i have already pointed out, its not these hindus you describe as national socialists who have debunked the theory. trained...
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    You know nothing about Hinduism

    west to east - swaraswati valley to ganges valley. and its not david frawley's view alone. AIT's dating was based from the reference frame of the 6 day creation concept that says the world was formed at 9 in the morning, wednesday, about 6000 years ago ! astronomy "anchors" RG VED to about...
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    You know nothing about Hinduism

    who told you tamils dont have brahmins amongst them??? whats ramanujam, chandrashekar, p.chidambram, c.v.raman then if not tamil brahmins ???
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    You know nothing about Hinduism

    your mom is spot on about "portion of tamil nadu (actually tamils have many "nadus" - lands of tamils) being sumberged". google "kumari kundum" and "lemuria". hinduwoman is also spot on in her site. ty for sharing. your own conclusion is wrong though. the temples of tamil nadu are the oldest in...
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    You know nothing about Hinduism

    well if its so difficult to point out what hinduism is, how can you be so sure that he is pushing hindu nationalism and not shamian nationalism ??
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