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    What is the problem with Islam?

    Hi Amica2, thanks for your honesty and open mind. I sensed, as a Muslim, you prefer the literal translation, that it could apply to all levels of government. But you are practical enough to notice that in secular society, God created non-Muslims with talents to serve at leadership positions. The...
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    What is the problem with Islam?

    Hi Amica2, could you please explain more on: depends who makes the decision? Did you mean Almaidah 5:51 applies to every level of government, if Islam is the state religion. And its not mandatory if Islam is not state religion?
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    What is the problem with Islam?

    Hi Amica2, in Principle, does Almaidah 5:51 applies to the top Political leader only or to all layers of political governance? As there are some non Muslim political leaders below President Jokowi. Such as his Energy & mining minister, other ministers, some army generals, other governors and...
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    What is the problem with Islam?

    Hi BJN, Thanks for the reply. Sorry I didn't want to offend. I think my post #186 above may indirectly answer your two questions. But going back to my original question, what is your view/interpretation of Almaidah 5:51 roughly translated: do not have non Muslim as your leader/allies?
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    What is the problem with Islam?

    Hi A Cup of Tea, In my first post, I wanted to find out BJN's belief, which I think reflects the correct moderate Muslim's belief, on the Almaidah verse 5:51, roughly translated: do not have non Muslim as your leader/allies. I expected that he would agree that this is in the context of war...
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    What is the problem with Islam?

    Hi BJN, as events unfolded. Ahok lost his reelection, only obtained 42% vote. His Muslim opponent, 58%. If we take out roughly 12% on non Muslim voters that were most likely to vote for Ahok. This means, 30% of total Jakarta population who are Muslim chose Ahok, out of assumed total of 88%...
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    What is the problem with Islam?

    Hi BJN, I hope this is not too far away from your Topic. I am a Chinese Christian Indonesian. Would you mind to offer your opinion on the issue of "Ahok" the Governor of Jakarta and tafsir of Almaidah 5:51. In Oct/Nov 2016, Ahok has been accused as criminal under Indonesian blasphemy laws due to...
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