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yes thats prophesy. i was talking about prophetism - where one man is supposed to have come in contact with god and gets a message from god to all humanity, and then the rest of humanity has to live their lives according to the laws prophet hands out, claiming that those laws are not from him...

yes. problem is that they have appeared in older dates than when the commandments are supposed to have been handed out. also in places where the ancient hebrews had been to. i am very interested to know what made you say that prophetism is against the nature of the universe... or did you mean...

ty both of you for the replies. i have specific questions from that site but would like to do some more research before asking them. but for now - i read somewhere that some of the laws of moses were also traced to egyptians, sumerian and other cultures around that area - could that be true...

and this too

this i'd lke to know if the claims of the site checks out historically OR not .

Re: Prophets, Avataras and Manifestations... that prophets and avatars are not the same thing :)

prophets and avatars are not the same thing at all.

historical facts are not democratically decided by weighing the number of views for an against something. its NOT my view that vedas come from Shruti and Smriti - its A HISTORIC FACT, that they do, regardless of what my view or the whole country;s view may be. true. only that i never...

its not a question of my view or the collective view of all hindus. its just what IS. according to hindu scripture, Raam, Krishna and Buddha are deified humans. which does not change if people think otherwise. Again, whether or not hindus, out of reverence, consider vedas (Ved in sanskrit)...

yes its Rama in south indian languages. but Raam is a prince from Ayodhya in whats today Uttar Pradesh, and is from those days when Sanskrit was the language of the whole of india except the 4 southern provinces. Also the epic Ramayana, written in sanskrit, never calls him "Rama" - always...

, fr Jesus belongs verily to category 2 - that of prophets. Krishna is considered an avatar, as is raam as is buddha - god manifested Himself through them.

I think there are many Hindus also who see God reflected in Krishna thats called Avatar. rather than seeing Krishna himself as a descent of God. thats a prophet. Hindus see the same God reflected in Rama who lived a life of high ideals and self-sacrifice. Clearly the view of the...

This is the problem. *Which* "pagans" are the Christians stealing from? almost exclusively teh pagans of europe. and sometimes like the Iris with the babe Horus thing, from egypt. The Jewish celebration? The Persian celebration? The Italian? Scottish? Mayan? no. yes, though vicariously...

That's a point of contention - only the clothing is pagan. no. some concepts and ideas too. and its not the clothing that IS pagan, its the manenquin that is. the present clothing is christian, where once a pagan clothing used to exist. As before, the Christmas tree isn't on the Church...

well i gave you a chance to get the stick by the right end. evidently you havent yet managed to do that. my arguement is not what you think it is. so i'll give it another shot - by replying to your previous post. and bandit, i could not care less why rome did what it did. what i am...

jesus was not built on anything, but his birthday sure was fitted on the wall. and if it does not make any difference when his birthday is celebrated, why then celebrate it on the day of winter solstice when pagans celebrated the invinsibility of the sun by having a feast in his honour?? why...

yes thats the christian dress. you celebrate it on the astronomical manenquinb of solstice though. the same manenquin that pagans had previously dressed up in "the feast of the invinsible sun"

masterbation is cool and fun. whats "sin" anyway ??

so you agree that christians still celebrate astronomical events (like solstice) that pagans used to weave their pagan theology on (like associating the feast in hounour of the life giver on solstice day) after associating something biblical with it?? that they dressed astronomical manenquins...

grossly. i'll give you a chance to get the stick by the right end.