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An embryonic ocean is just one of the many global changes that happen all of the time, whether its the turn of an age or not, but in the same vein it could actually be one of the precursors of a change that Im sure most of us think is immenent (sp?). Any great geological change will more than...

I suspect we probably might at the very least, all proof and explaination aside I'm fairly certain we're going to see some crazy stuff in the next few years. P72

Fifth is one of those reoccurring things, alot of cultures put us at the fifth whatever, and that cataclysmic thing happens too... P72:p

As usual a well questioned point, so many things we tend to take as literalism is really just symbolic of something with greater meaning and this is another fine example. All these 12's 13's 7's and 144's could really be factors happening within our own heads to bring us this enlightenment...

Obviously like the rest of you I'm not able to say here nor there in relation to very old tales, but I do believe tales can last alot more than 1000 years, sure the heros may change names and the goal may be called something different but the plot remains the same, over and over again. An...

The Egyptians talk of it in the book of the dead (or going forth), the mention the flip and how north was south. Oh plus scientists have accepted it as a common occurence but although they say we're over due, most don't say when its coming, those that do, well...I hate to flog a dead 2012 horse...

pohaikawahine and Pathless, Thanks heaps for the reading guys, it does seem that we are reading similar stuff except for the Schumann frequency dealio, which is fascinating if not entirely understood so far, the science needs a bit more info but it sounds plausible. I do not intend to...

pohaikawahine, love the research, If anything could send us changing beyond recognition into an age of enlightnment, where we all stopped suddenly being the jerks we usually are and listened to our fellow man, Mass telephathy would be it. Its also cool that the sun plays a part in this...

Really starting to stray on this topic now so I'll try and tie back a little, Sphinx; conventional egyptology doesn't really do it justice and the debate goes on, but in order for it to have the erosion marks it has it needed to be dated around the end of the last ice age, the controlling...

Predictions can and do come true. For instance, I predict that the sun will rise tomorrow... This is no prophesy Ben this merely the mechanism you live in ticking over, pressing the button and having your computer turn on is a reliable mundanity. There is also no question whatsoever that...

Well we may not be comming to a concensus, but in each persons version we see the possible kernals of truth, I dont like to speculate whos truth may be more prevalent in our upcoming fututre, though I've enjoyed our dialogue immensly. Not that I try to draw this to a close but the jury has heard...

bgruagach you just finished telling me that these examples of destruction were "obscure mythology", Im sure you dont have to remind me of the bloody myths mate, its my entire argument. And if you are going to refer to a 26000 year cycle clock as a "handy time keeping notation" then Im guessing...

bgruagach, I agree, there have been many false predictions about the end of the world mostly by Judeo Christians it would seem, not surprizing really given the gory last book of the bible, no body else seems to have the level of interest in their own demise. But none of them (if I may beat a...

Thats quite vehement of you Brian, The fact is their is more physical proof that the essenes did indeed write the bible, and the whole bible in both parts is just full of rewriten mesopotamian epics, Gilgamesh/Samson, Flood epic even Christ is similar to about 5 other dudes. But this is out of...

pohaikawahine, Now we're beginning to communicate. I'm feeling that we've been speaking a similar language for some time, but you don't often express your views in any great detail, probably because it leaves you open to deconstructive comments (hopefully not from myself). Well I'm totally...

Sorry got that a bit funny. P72:rolleyes:

Bgruagach, Myths are just that, stories that may resemble some past event or history, it is also my personal opinion that some of these myths have been shaped by our ancestors, like the bible for instance, a book that was written by a bunch of pagan astrologer priests (essenes, Qumran) who were...

The main point I was making here was that it was a story about a change in circumstance for that world at that time in mythology, if you read the dead sea scrolls you'll find its not too different from the messianic epic in its essential tale. Its always battle/destruction with a resurrection...

Point taken Poha, symbolism can really be taken many ways especially when viewed from a single point, though its pretty hard to view it too far from the general meaning when something like destruction happens across the board. And master bgruagach, ever heard of the titans? The messianic style...

As a man I've explored the various identities associated with being a man, Warrior, poet, lover, father etc, but natures not a man, although the pagan gods were gods of the wild (and goddesses of civilisation). Are you forgetting that one whole aspect of the woman, the "crone" is responsible for...