the Rev. Bob Larson: saint or sinner?

[Francis king]

was watching a tv show about the Rev. last week, and thought I'd ask around on here for other people's thoughts...

for those who don't kow of him,

Rev. Bob is an exorsist.

He's not a catholic, no. He doesn't use the Catholic rites, either. He has his own church. And he trains other people to exorsise too. And no, don't bother getting out the sweat pants, for you won't be needing them.

Bob conducted his interview on a fabulous rhino hide chair. Honestly. Rhino hide. Oh, and he had a lovely office. Big, plush, inside a big plush centre.

His method is simple- he gathers the flock, and then he walks about with his bible, looking for demons. He can see them in people, he gets a small flash of recognition, and over he goes, to exorsise.

The people's demons are many. Demons of addiction, of madness, of murder, of despair. Oftentimes the demons are not attached to the person by any fault of their own- sometimes the demons have come simply because their mother had one, or a long forgotten anscestor was cursed by a witch, et cetera. And he finds out how the demons are working through the people by conducting interviews and going to the persons home, etc, and researching their family lines in local papers, etc.

then all it takes to get rid of them, apparently, is for Bob to call them out, In Jesus' Name, whack them with the bible for a bit, and voila! they're gone!

Now, people really get into it- thrashing about, speaking in funny voices, et cetera, and they feel so much better afterwards...

Is Bob a saint or a sinner?

 

[17th Angel]

Is Bob a saint or a sinner?

Ignore everything... EVERYTHING you said.... Now... Listen to this...:

people really get into it- thrashing about, speaking in funny voices, et cetera, and they feel so much better afterwards...

Is Bob a saint or a sinner?

All religion is a pile of bull... lol BUT, what is special about it is that it makes someone feel better, it gives someone hope it then makes them build faith... They feel -SO MUCH- better.... As you said...Isn't that a good thing? I'd love to be able to make people feel so much better, even if I was talking a steaming pile of dung, I would still be making people feel good, I think that is what counts... :\ AND WE ALL FREAKING DO IT....

Does this puke coloured dress look nice on me dear? "oh.. oh yeah that is beautiful darling... Really mm... Tasty..." Did you notice my new hair cut!? "OH FOR REAL! I was gonna say it looks nice!" Do I look fat in this? "Oh not at all..." You know you do it people..... But it isn't wrong.... Because sure your wife may look like a horse from behind in those jeans... That hair cut makes you look like a founder of the Microsoft company... That dress makes you look like a hobo... That aftershave stinks of cat's piss.... But we are being nice and making that person smile, an that is all that counts in this life... Smile.


People hitting people with bibles and sh.. stuff? That is freaking awesome he would make me feel better because that would be class entertainment, we need something to give us a smile in this temporary brief and dull excuse of an existance...... Ever seen cartman? (South park) When he becomes a pastor? lol..... loving it.

 

[cyberpi]

I think of a demon as an entrenched belief or physical ailment. For example an addiction to smoking is a demon. If a guy can't stop drooling around a sexy woman then he has a demon. I see what I view are many demons within religions because as I trace their foundation I see a physical desire or addiction. An addiction for example is very real even though it is not from the will... but the will has accepted and entrenched the addiction instead of overcoming it. I see no soul or 'free will' within a demon, but there is a soul that clings religiously to it. I could be wrong.

As a data point... and I'm actually a skeptic... but I have had what could be viewed as an exorcism within a dream. I woke up kind of wailing saying, "woo woo woo woo"... something that I did NOT intend in any shape or form and my wife woke up and she said it was really disturbing, a bit terrifying. I have never experienced anything like it before and I view 'exorcism' along the same lines as hypnotism. A suggestion at best.

It sure felt like an exorcism although I have never seen anything but a Hollywood exorcism to know what one looks like. I have little interest or no infatuation in them. Within my mind in the day I was having a small debate with myself (thinking), and I was noticing that day that I really wanted the thoughts to go away... it was unproductive. Kind of like a song that you hear and it lingers within the mind as if you can't get rid of it. It might take a little bit of conscious effort. Whatever the song is it appears to use up energy or resource and it can be good to find the switch to turn it off and carry on the day with complete focus for the task in hand.

Within the dream it felt as though I was approached by someone, who had rebuked me for something. I've decided today that it essentially was responsible for the debate, or it was the debate that was in my mind that day. I was questioning the entity what it wanted. I was a bit perturbed by it. As I questioned, it went upstairs into an attic, out the window, and into a grave. I followed it up to the window and I was kind of bummed that the chicken didn't answer me. I wondered though if it was being ripped from me or if I drove it away. I was awakening and realizing that I was essentially wailing... embarrased by it. As I awoke I'm upstairs and the windows were open. It was really wierd and foreign to me and my personality to be wailing, and even for what I was feeling within the dream. I did not consciously choose what happened... but yet in a sense I asked for it. Sort of like asking for something and not realizing what I asked for. Within my dream it was like a person talking to me. Or, was I talking with myself. It was a dream and dreams are often wierd full of unprovoked responses. Kind of like a simulation wherein the other entities are not necessarily sentient or present, but can be fun to interact with.

The next day I felt good... entirely relaxed, no worries. Furthermore I saw a couple of external events that day that were reassuring to me that the Karma was good. So I spent extra time wondering what really happened. I think I know but I do still have questions at some level... Did I cause something to leave or did someone do it for me? Was the something an entity or was it just an entrenched belief? What was the wailing for... a behaviour from a prior life? What caused me to do it? What is the purpose? I have my opinions or beliefs, but I do not have concrete answers there.

Not much of a data point, and not something I'm keen admitting to, but my only experience first hand. Can a person remove that addiction (demon) from a person, and if so is it a sin to do it? I think it is like hypnotism... if it is willed by the person then it is good. If it is not willed then it is evil. People present suggestions to each other but if a person accepts or rejects a suggestion then it is their choice. But if there are people with whom you can suggest anything and they will obey you then they are slaves to their own demons. Blind Faith, right? For example if I were a woman that men just fell over for and they can't help themselves for it, then I consider it wrong to use their demon against them to gain control and further myself with it. Or, if a person is addicted to smoking then it would be evil to tie a cigarette to a fishing line and drag the fish around by it. Or with drugs. Or even showering a person with praise... can be pure evil in my book. Or music... in a sense I agree that is what someone like Rev. Bob Larson is into. The science of how to influence and make people into followers.

However, if he is asking people if they wish to be healed and they willfully submit to it and he actually helps them or they think he heals them, then I'd consider him gifted and I'd like to visit him. I view that God is the real enabler though. If instead it is a magic trick or the subjects of the alleged exorcism someday deny it or consider it bad for them, then I consider it to be the exploit of a physical condition. For example a proverbial knife in the back will make almost anyone wail and speak in unintelligible tongues. Take away the cigarettes or drugs from an addicted person and you might get a similar response.

 

[17th Angel]

For example a proverbial knife in the back will make almost anyone wail and speak in unintelligible tongues. Take away the cigarettes or drugs from an addicted person and you might get a similar response.

Take away my cigarettes and drugs... I'd still be intelligent... I'd just kick your ass lol....

 

[Francis king]

but that's because your brain is infected by devils, 17th...

 

[Tao_Equus]

Anyone point me in the direction of a good demon salesman?

 

[17th Angel]

but that's because your brain is infected by devils, 17th...

Indeed it is.... That was me, that is Alex... And three droogs... Pete, Georgie and Dim... Sitting in the Korova Milkbar... They sell milk-plus vellocet or synthemesc... Or drencrom... That is what we were drinking... sharpening us up for some of the old ultra-violence....

Anyone point me in the direction of a good demon salesman?

Can share a few of mine for free if you wish?