Ok. I'm sure that's true. Not fighting
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It's all good, I'm not fighting . . .Ok. I'm sure that's true. Not fighting
If Dualism is one's paradigm, then it is a given that there must be a left hand way around every obstacle.
Otherwise... there are so many paths, in my view of things, left, right, middle, forward, back, in, out, through, up, down, top, bottom, strange, charm - got carried away, but you get the picture... even the lawn may be trod upon to get from here to there. In my opinion, as always.
Shocking imagery is part of many spiritual paths, I've noticed. Christ crucified, the martyrs, reformed demons turned Dharma Protectors, Durga clad in a skirt of severed limbs, the Lord of Death holding up the wheel of Karmic Consequences against a backdrop of hellish landscapes, and so on.
Among other things, maybe a teaching aid, makes the students sit up and pay attention?
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I only recognize two Paths, maybe three.
Brings to mind Zen is full of them. I'm thinking of the story of the Zen Master who put the scriptures on the fire to warm the cooking pot!
I'm assuming tongue in cheek here ... a reaction to some deep-voiced mansplaining
With one dubious and one false assertion right from the get-go, I clicked off.
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Which 'dubious' and 'false' assertion was that?I'm assuming tongue in cheek here ... a reaction to some deep-voiced mansplaining
With one dubious and one false assertion right from the get-go, I clicked off.
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The imagery on the (Western) LHP, for the most part, is symbolic and often contains reverence for antinomian mythology such as horned gods, strong goddesses, etc. The anti-Christian imagery is usually from edgelords, immature wannabee Satanists, the confused, and role-players.
OK ... from the start ...
The perennial philosophy shares a 'single universal doctrine' is somewhat inaccurate, allowing a large margin of error. A single source, yes, but doctrines vary.
That the world's RHP religions pursues "the deception of one's conscious awareness" etc. That's a pretty bold statement, and given the tekne and praxis of those religions, one I would have thought was dubious ... One could of course reply that the LHP emphasis on subjectivity is nothing less than self-delusion, a case of pots and kettles.
"Universal Absolute or Supreme Being otherwise known as the Objective Universe" – that's quite wrong. The two are quite distinct. The author clearly, wilfully or in error, misunderstands the great Traditions.
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There may have been a little liberty taken in that assertion, but given the fact there doesn't exist any objective evidence for the existence of some Supreme Being, I see the claim as solid.
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Yet they all share the same doctrine, to be absolved in some way into the Absolute/Supreme Being/God etc.
It's an obvious statement, IMO. Feel free to opine on your understanding of the LHP.
The only faiths I know of that separates an Absolute/Primordial Realm from a Supreme Being that has either created this Absolute Realm or 'is' this Realm, is Gnosticism with their cosmology of the Pleroma and Demiurge ideas. Otherwise, I know of no RHP's that separate God from the Objective Universe.
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Yes, more or less.
Nope. At the level of The Absdolute. we're beyond doctrines.
Well I'd say 'absolved' is the wrong term here.
Really? I think they all do.
Pantheism assumes God and the 'objective universe' is one, but then the universe is not merely the material universe as the video defines it. Panentheism asserts the Absolute as immanently is present in, to, with and through the material cosmos, but is nevertheless Itself utterly transcendent.
In short, I think the video is an example of a straw-man fallacy.
There you go then. The Absolute by definition transcends the material cosmos. Empiricism is the measure of the physical.
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I'd like to say that, my intention of the LHP Subforum is not to discuss/debate what the RHP is or is not, but what the LHP is and is not. I didn't post the video, maybe these questions should be directed at the member who did.
OK. You asked ...
In Buddhist terms, too great an emphasis on the RHP leads to an overt asceticism, whilst the LHP is its contrary, sensualism.
In Christianity, much the same. The RHP leads to dogmatism for its own sake, the LHP to heterodoxy for the same reason.
For me, the path is The Middle Way, in which left and right are held in balance.
In Buddhist terms, too great an emphasis on the RHP leads to an overt asceticism, whilst the LHP is its contrary, sensualism.
In Christianity, much the same. The RHP leads to dogmatism for its own sake, the LHP to heterodoxy for the same reason.