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I'd like to know more about that...have considered it in detail for at least 30 years, 12 years in this forum.
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I'd like to know more about that...have considered it in detail for at least 30 years, 12 years in this forum.
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To be fair, the path to realising the fullness of self is a part of the RHP Traditions, each possessing its 'inner alchemy' disciplines, towards that which is neither abstract nor unattainable. For example there is 'self-power' (in Buddhism, 他力, 'tariki') and 'other-power' (in Buddhism, 他力, 'jariki') practices without contradiction. The same might be said of Jnana marga, Karma marga and Bhakti marga in Hinduism, or the various spiritual practices and disciplines in Christianity.To live with the intention of Becoming More, of realizing the Greater Self, is to embark upon a Path of Conscious Self-Cultivation. It calls for rigorous self-awareness and the courage of deep self-reflection. The goal is not the pursuit of some abstract, unattainable ideal such as Right Hand Path faiths require, but rather the committed embrace of one’s latent potential and the ongoing Transcension of self to Self through deliberate Inner Alchemy.
First off, Buddhism is a Left Hand Path, you missed a few others as well.To be fair, the path to realising the fullness of self is a part of the RHP Traditions, each possessing its 'inner alchemy' disciplines, towards that which is neither abstract nor unattainable. For example there is 'self-power' (in Buddhism, 他力, 'tariki') and 'other-power' (in Buddhism, 他力, 'jariki') practices without contradiction. The same might be said of Jnana marga, Karma marga and Bhakti marga in Hinduism, or the various spiritual practices and disciplines in Christianity.
The only point I would quibble with is that, by definition, a being cannot 'transcend' its own nature. Rather, it can achieve the fullness of that which was always potentially possible within its nature, but nothing beyond it – to go beyond its own nature implies there is something already there for it to realise or enter ... conversely the risk is becoming trapped in a closed loop.
Humans can do that by knowledge and analysis, Jnana marga. One can get out of 'maya', mazes and loops, if one can abandon prejudices.The only point I would quibble with is that, by definition, a being cannot 'transcend' its own nature. Rather, it can achieve the fullness of that which was always potentially possible within its nature, but nothing beyond it – to go beyond its own nature implies there is something already there for it to realise or enter ... conversely the risk is becoming trapped in a closed loop.
Is Buddhism generally a Left Hand Path, or does Buddhism broadly have both left and right hand strains? There are several different schools of Buddhism right? Are they all Left Hand Path?First off, Buddhism is a Left Hand Path, you missed a few others as well.
Not entirely ...First off, Buddhism is a Left Hand Path, you missed a few others as well.
No, the essence can be fluid, but it is an essence, complete and entire to itself, and all instantiations of it share and participate in it. Thus human nature is an essence, and every human is 100% of that essence, but no single human possesses that nature in its entirety.Secondly, To say a being cannot transcend its nature is to presuppose a fixed, static essence, a concept foreign to the Western Left Hand Path.
Then those forms must surely be contained in the Will prior to their realisation?Our path is the path of becoming, not mere unfolding. We are not bound by what is latent within us, but rather driven to surpass it, to become what is not yet, to give birth to new forms of Self through Will.
I don't believe, and I could be wrong, that there is a form of Buddhism which seeks a union with some kind of Universal Reality (RHP)Is Buddhism generally a Left Hand Path, or does Buddhism broadly have both left and right hand strains? There are several different schools of Buddhism right? Are they all Left Hand Path?
The definition of a left-hand path is diverse. Some say even ritual worship is a left-hand path.
I believe original Buddhism was not a left-hand path. Thersavada is less so. But if you take Mahayana, depending on the definition, could be a left-hand path. As for Tibetan Buddhism, it is more so.
InterestingThe definition of a left-hand path is diverse. Some say even ritual worship is a left-hand path.
I believe original Buddhism was not a left-hand path. Thersavada is less so. But if you take Mahayana, depending on the definition, could be a left-hand path. As for Tibetan Buddhism, it is more so.
Does this mean that religions like Judaism and Catholic or Orthodox Christianity have left hand elements?Some say even ritual worship is a left-hand path.
Others could say more, but my understanding is that by saying 'original Buddhism' people would be referring to the direct original teachings of Siddartha Gautama, the Buddha, and the practices and beliefs of his original circle of followers.What is original Buddhism?
TheravadaWhat is original Buddhism?
The Left-Hand Path is a journey of separation from universal reality, where one isolates their consciousness within their own inner, subjective worlds. Through this deliberate psychic solitude, the individual refines and perfects their soul or psyche. Instead of adapting to the universe, the universal reality is made to align and harmonize with the individual’s will and inner nature.Interesting
Does this mean that religions like Judaism and Catholic or Orthodox Christianity have left hand elements?
My (rather simple) understanding of left hand path is that it is about self empowerment
What else is important to the definition/understanding of left hand path?
Intriguing.The Left-Hand Path is a journey of separation from universal reality, where one isolates their consciousness within their own inner, subjective worlds. Through this deliberate psychic solitude, the individual refines and perfects their soul or psyche. Instead of adapting to the universe, the universal reality is made to align and harmonize with the individual’s will and inner nature.
Universal Reality, referred to as God in religious traditions or Nature in philosophical ones, is understood as the ultimate, all-encompassing source and structure of existence. It is seen as the underlying unity behind all things, the final reality into which all individual forms and wills are thought to return or dissolve. This is seen as a deceptive doctrine from a Western Left Hand Path lens.Intriguing.
But how does it work?
What is "universal reality" or how is it defined in this case?
Theravada
The Eight-fold Noble Path, Śīla, Śūnyatā (IMHO). All the rest is later expansion.What is original Buddhism?
Some in Hinduism consider all attempts to approach the deity as Left-hand path, contrived, forced, Hatha (Hatha yoga).Interesting
Does this mean that religions like Judaism and Catholic or Orthodox Christianity have left hand elements?
What else is important to the definition/understanding of left hand path?
The deception here is, I would suggest, the result of short-sighted understandingIt is seen as the underlying unity behind all things, the final reality into which all individual forms and wills are thought to return or dissolve. This is seen as a deceptive doctrine from a Western Left Hand Path lens.
Not quite ... salvation is one thing.Perennial Philosophy teaches ... the path of self-annihilation, framed as salvation.