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    Dorje Shugden - Kadampa - Dalai Lama

    Tenzin Choje for me you appear as one of the classical (somewhat fanatical) Shugden devotees. Why? Because you think your position is 100% correct and others who oppose your point of view are 100% wrong you assume that I must "cling … to the words of academic scholars" by this you put me down...
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    Geshe Kelsang Gyatso and Dorje Shugden

    Re: PS from BDCHITA--Re: Geshe Kelsang Gyatso and Dorje Shugden The main teacher of Kelsang Gyatso is Geshe Lhundup Sopa. Kelsang Gyatso didn't receive all the teachings from Trijang Rinpoche. He might have received some empowerments and some teachings from Trijang Rinpoche. But if you study in...
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    Dorje Shugden - Kadampa - Dalai Lama

    Your argument is mainly suggesting to me, that the issue cannot be decided because both sides have arguments. One can see it that way, however, if one really wants to understand the issue one can investigate what arguments are based on facts and valid and what arguments are misleading, not based...
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    Dorje Shugden - Kadampa - Dalai Lama

    I wrote my reply in a rush, so it's not really precise. And since the time to change the post is run out I post my corrected post here again. Sorry for the confusion it might create. Then first of all you should also wonder why it is 'defaming' to question Pabongkha Rinpoche or even why it is...
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    Dorje Shugden - Kadampa - Dalai Lama

    Then first of all you should also wonder why it is 'defaming' to question Pabongkha Rinpoche. Secondly, it's a tactic in all forums where the Shugden issue is coming up that when someone suggests neutral academic research that the researchers are put down as biased, having failed etc. because...
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    Dorje Shugden - Kadampa - Dalai Lama

    "Like I have said I am not defaming david kay, but i question his credibility because all the Gelug lamas I know says that it is impossible for Pabongkha Rinpoche to show even the slightest disrespect to Padmasambhava statue and ALL of them say that it is a result of nasty rumors. And for...
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    Dorje Shugden - Kadampa - Dalai Lama

    Sorry but history has nothing to do with "I feel" but facts. And that at least fanatical followers of him did is, is just a fact. It's always easy to put down others' criticism by claiming they would be "extremely jealous", actual this is the next insult you are issuing here: the researchers are...
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    Dorje Shugden - Kadampa - Dalai Lama

    btw. that at least pabonkha rinpoche's students (pushed by his sectarian approach) were responsible for the forceful conversion of nyingma monasteries into gelug monasteris and the destruction of padmasambhava statues is even confirmed by high gelug lamas, not even they deny this but defend...
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    Dorje Shugden - Kadampa - Dalai Lama

    What are you doing? You accuse a researcher of having defamed Pabongkha Rinpoche while the researcher, in that case David Kay, only reports what is a fact and also stated by other researchers and historians. For instance Prof Geoffrey Samuel, states in Civilized Shamans p.545-546:The dominant...
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    Dorje Shugden - Kadampa - Dalai Lama

    There is a very good academic account by Dr. David N. Kay, published by RoutledgeCurzon. Since recently one had to pay a lot of money for the book but now it is available as a PDF online for free: Just Google »David Kay “Tibetan and Zen Buddhism in Britain – Transplantation, development and...
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    Geshe Kelsang Gyatso and Dorje Shugden

    Re: Kelsang Gyatso and Dorje Shugden Je Tsongkhapa has not even mentioned Shugden. Dorje Shugden appeared at the time of the fifth Dalai Lama as a vengeful spirit. The whole issue is mainly bound to sectarianism, elitism and power politics within the Gelug school of Tibetan Buddhism. The...
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