The Mind of the Universe: Brahma or Vishnu?

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I'm under the impression that there's a specific deity in Hinduism who represents the mind of the universe, but I always get mixed up whether it's Brahma or Vishnu. Is it one of these, or have I mixed up my concepts entirely? Thank you for any replies. :)
 
I've never heard of a deity referred to as "the mind of the universe," but that's not to say that there isn't such an association somewhere in Hinduism.

In the Trimurti, with regard to the universe, it is commonly held that Brahma is the creator, Vishnu is the preserver, and Shiva is the destroyer.
 
I'm under the impression that there's a specific deity in Hinduism who represents the mind of the universe, but I always get mixed up whether it's Brahma or Vishnu. Is it one of these, or have I mixed up my concepts entirely? Thank you for any replies. :)
Such and intriguing question... I am familiar with the concept of the Universal Mind, usually thought of as God in sources I have used in the past, like material from spiritual and self help teacher Jonathan Parker (my mom used to get catalogs from his company when I was a teenager and order his tapes, he is now here Jonathan Parker | Guided Meditation Retreats & Self Help Programs)

Universal Mind brings up info like this Universal Mind—There is One Universal Consciousness
and its Wikipedia page Universal mind - Wikipedia

I tried to see if I could find anything googling about the Mind of the Universe, either affiliated with either of those Hindu gods or otherwise

A book https://www.amazon.com/Mind-Universe-Understanding-Science-Religion/dp/1890151548

The title Mind of the Universe is apparently a science TV series Mind of the Universe

The Mind of God by a physicist and science writer named Paul Davies, is apparently a very comprehensive book about scientific theories
 
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I'm under the impression that there's a specific deity in Hinduism who represents the mind of the universe, but I always get mixed up whether it's Brahma or Vishnu. Is it one of these, or have I mixed up my concepts entirely? Thank you for any replies. :)

But wait there's more! I located a couple of things more explicit about the role of Brahma and Vishnu in creating and sustaining the universe and a pillar of the universe the role of consciousness and dreaming on Brahma's part in creating the universe... I don't think they use the term the Mind of the Universe but the one about Brahma's dream seems to convey such an idea




 
These two pages, same site, refer to the concept of the Mind of God in Christianity, however the site as a whole seems to be more about Hindu concepts and terminology. It looks more like Hindu philosophy to me than Christianity, though something like esoteric or gnostic Christianity may be what the writer had in mind

 
In the Trimurti, with regard to the universe, it is commonly held that Brahma is the creator, Vishnu is the preserver, and Shiva is the destroyer
Yes, I came to ask @iBrian how he could leave Shiva out of the holy trinity!

Shiva is what allows it all imo...our earth would not exist without worms and compost
 
Ah, yes - this sounds like what I was thinking. If Brahma dreams the universe, then does this mean Brahma is effectively the mind of the universe?
Perhaps you are thinking of Brahman, though Brahman is no deity. It is considered to be the highest principle in Hindu philosophy; the substrate upon which the universe appears. Brahman appears in the form of deity through the lens of Maya (time, space, and causation) as Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Shakti, etc. But Brahman without Maya is without qualities and attributes (nirguna) and considered to be pure consciousness. This is sometimes referred to as Para Brahman.

There are philosophies within Hinduism that view the universe as the dream of Brahman. Perhaps this is the "mind of the universe" you are referencing in your OP?
 
Ah, yes - this sounds like what I was thinking. If Brahma dreams the universe, then does this mean Brahma is effectively the mind of the universe?
An aside or three... (I wish our forum were threaded. So my mind's response would not derail anything. Someone takes a new twist and that is discussed on a new thread as the original post and comments keep on going...alas)

This reminds me of reading someplace that Genesis 1 is G!d thinking, Genesis 2 is G!d doing, hence the differences in the 7 days of creation and the animals on the ark...the 'reality is different than the thought/plan

But also would mind of the univers be anthropomorphizing the universe?

Back to your regular programming...
 
There are philosophies within Hinduism that view the universe as the dream of Brahman. Perhaps this is the "mind of the universe" you are referencing in your OP?
The link I posted above (here for convenience) reports the universe to be the dream of Brahma. Do they have it wrong? Are the words Brahman and Brahma not related? It appears in this link they actually use the words interchangeably -- have they made an error?
 
Thank you very much - this sounds like what I was asking about. It appears I was confusing Brahma and Brahman? If so, my apologies!
I think the link I posted may have contained that confusion. I honestly thought the two words were either related, or, that the variation was due to translation. Interesting! I will have to learn more about the distinction.
 
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The link I posted above (here for convenience) reports the universe to be the dream of Brahma. Do they have it wrong? Are the words Brahman and Brahma not related? It appears in this link they actually use the words interchangeably -- have they made an error?
Yes and no. All that can be perceived in the world is verily Brahman. However, Brahma is saguna Brahman (Brahman with qualities and attributes) i.e. a deity. As is Shiva, Vishnu, Kali, et al. Brahma is to Brahman as a character in your dream would be to the you the dreamer.
 
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