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From my perspective: The good wins when the evil choose to be good. The evil wins when the good choose to be evil. If the evil person lost, the good person lost. If the good person wins, the evil person wins. You believe I am an advocate for evil? I will read up on Yudhishthira and Duryodhana.

Ah yes, thank you. That does look selfish to me. When the sport is to help others, 'turn the other cheek' takes on a different meaning and motivation. I see better how you agree with Bhisma, and disagree with me. Thank you for the education.

Yes I read that; however, the powerful may also have foolishness and pride, and have need to repent to those low life poor, weaker peasants. Bhisma is talking to an alleged King. If Bhisma responded and said something like, "Anyone that does unto others as they would NOT have others do unto...

I see the words of the maha-bharata, the words of Yudhisthira and Bhisma. Looks like a copy and paste. Where are your words? What does "Turn the Other Cheek" mean to you? Why would you turn the other cheek? When in your life have you turned the other cheek? If confronted with an unscrupulous...

A human that no longer has to search, that reports they the have all the answers to their questions. I don't plan to retire. I have a gentleman close to 70 years old working with me that spent most of his life relatively close to your part of the world. I think he might have retired if he came...

Awe, I'm relentless and just no fun for you. I have a different type of experience, being an artist and something of an expert in a field where I know something that the majority of ordinary people do not know. Likewise to be of service, I must rely on people who know many things that I don't...

Did you propose to your wife? Did you purchase the hard drive and defragger? No, I answered your question. How do you know all men are mortal? How do you know Socrates was a man? Perhaps you just don't see and admit to the empirical measurement. Your If / then is false. If you discount the...

In the USA I think they call it retirement, when a person decides it is past their time to practice what they preach.

False. This thread is largely about the concept of 'prove', especially as you just used it. Radarmark harbors and puts forward the same concept of 'prove' when it suits him. From my viewpoint, it is false. You have to prove or disprove for yourself. I have to prove or disprove for myself. I am...

History is the truth that you measure. As you point to logic, you point to a logic that is not being found everywhere in the solar system. Even restricted to this planet, to the brains of humans, a logic is not found everywhere. Interesting caveat, one that required some 'Do'. As an alleged...

I once spent time with a person who planned to go into business making a higher tech version of a crack pipe / inhaler. He touted that it was healthier for a person. I told him there was not much wisdom or good in his business venture, especially considering that he was a recovering drug addict...

I am not speaking of someone imaginary, though I admit there was a day I would see it that way. It seems you have revealed the parent that you follow: hindu wisdom. Somehow, I don't think it is hindu wisdom that asks you to reject a God or a Goddess. If so, then hindu wisdom is a hypocrite...

I have spoken to God, and to a degree God has followed me. Hey now, put that pitch fork down. There is no reason for that.

For me it was the early years when a homeless stranger slept on our couch. So then, there is some 'Do'. ;) Do you call that 'religious pluralism'? From my viewpoint, as rational but experienced, and compassionate human beings it is some of our duty, our 'to Do', and it often takes courage to...

I tend to adopt and use the language of others: 'darkness' from chapter 18 of Gita, 'unscrupulous' from Bhisma. I meant: 'Ignore-ance' of an alleged unscrupulous person. Bhisma teaches to ignore. Certainly not. Why didn't you answer my questions of you: Your words, your viewpoint, not another...

If you spoke to God, would God listen to you?

In the USA some adults still live with their parents, but may or may not follow them. I imagine it is similar with God. Perhaps you could ask God to follow you, and see what happens. If you do, review your life in the future, and then ask yourself whether or not God listened and followed you.

From my perspective, there is no teaching of 'Turn the other Cheek' in anything that you have presented on this thread. None. Bhisma speaks of greed as the origin of all sin, and his words demonstrate his greed. He speaks of 'repenting' to a King, and tells him that the weaker person must...

I have spoken negatively of meditation (here) when faced with someone who is attracted to that solo practice as the path to enlightenment, and because they want to be there all the time. I have spoken positively of meditation when faced with someone who has difficulty with self control, trouble...

I meant your read and translation was horrid, from my perspective. Rather, that the Obligated Duties is not the obligation that you indicate, and the nature is not the nature that you imply. Between good, passion, and ignorance as stated in chapter 18, (as an example, applying it to someone)...