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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    I know some have speculated that -- what with recent research in particle physics -- time exists in more than one linear dimension: there may be a time dimension in which past, present and future are observable simultaneously. And there may be fleeting intimations of this simultaneous dimension...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    I suppose my candidates for circumstantial evidence would be those isolated figures in history for whom there is both unaffiliated and hagiographic "press" and for whom some direct experience of deity seems claimed by the actual individual. They should also be seen making such claims in the...
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    Codex Sinaiticus

    Thanks -- much appreciated. I'm curious, BTW: Might anyone here know if the Sinaiticus or the Vaticanus is generally viewed as the earliest, or is there no consensus on that? I know that, together, they're generally viewed as earlier than any others. Best, Operacast
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    This has nothing to do with persecution. All the atheists I've met in the regular off-line world, including my own brother and father, who was a history professor with a PHD and taught at an Ivy League college, have/had no problem with accepting where the evidence goes and accepting that Jesus...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    Eccles is practicing blatant bait-and-switch. We've been addressing -- he's been addressing -- the figure of Jesus of Nazareth. The two references to Jesus of Nazareth that are in Josephus -- and Josephus is OUTSIDE Scripture -- are TWO different passages referring to him: one in Antiquities...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    My guess is that there may be more than just one mythicist here, going by my experience of a number of Web forums like this one today that profess a vital engagement with the thinking of today and with the newest perspective while still buying into this half-baked half-assed distortion of what...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    To illustrate once and for all some of the chief aspects in mythicists' methods that trouble me so, I'm going to provide here another posting that I submitted, goodness knows when(!), to another board. I was just starting my journey to real impatience with some of the mythicists at the time, but...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    I surprise myself by how increasingly alarmed I now feel at the mythicist agenda. As anything but a traditional believer, I have gone through stages in which I once viewed the theory as unlikely but still possible. Where I surprise myself today is the degree to which the more I read mythicist...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    I Googled and came up with this -- Atheistwatch: My Dialouge with Binobolumai: Jesus Myther stuff Operacast
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    Jesus is not God....part 2

    My guess is that there may be more than just one mythicist here, going by my experience of a number of Web forums like this one today that profess a vital engagement with the thinking of today and with the newest perspective while still buying into this half-baked half-assed distortion of what...
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    Jesus is not God....part 2

    To illustrate once and for all some of the chief aspects in mythicists' methods that trouble me so, I'm going to provide here another posting that I submitted, goodness knows when(!), to another board. I was just starting my journey to real impatience with some of the mythicists at the time, but...
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    Jesus is not God....part 2

    I think it time to talk turkey once and for all on the inherent flaws in the position taken by some that Jesus never existed, not even as a simple non-miraculous human being, let alone a supernatural one. In fact, positing that he was indeed a simple non-miraculous human being is not at all...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    You recall correctly. This is a pernicious urban myth that is made out of whole cloth. There is nothing remotely similar in the Horus stories, and creeps like Acharya S. have taken this baloney and run with it. It may be that -- this time -- this poster will actually give some documentation...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    O.K. Fair enough. -- I do have a trivial hang-up of my own here, but it's my problem, not yours:): Everyone always says "rose by any other name", for the simple reason that it's gotten proverbial. Apparently, though, this is a reading of Juliet's line that was popularized in the late 19th...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    But which needs to be said. -- Thank you. Best, Operacast
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    Aren't we moving the goal posts? The question was asked if we'd know of Jesus without the Bible as a whole, no? Anyway, I have to admit I've always subscribed to the idea (don't mean to offend) that all the Old Testament references do not necessarily refer to Jesus of Nazareth. I appreciate...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    Come to think of it, that may not necessarily be right, entirely. We do have Josephus's Antiquities, after all, helter-skelter as its textual history may be. And although it would be in very distorted form, we'd also have some inkling of Jesus in the exegeses of the Church Fathers, each with...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    Actually, I'm more concerned with the Jesus mythicists than the Bible mythicists. After all, I myself am hardly a Bible literalist. I guess what has really gotten me going is something far more creepy to me than the Jesus mythicists going after the New Testament. After all, that's part of the...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    One chief concern I have about this mythicist program is the way their dishonest methods might really take off, if they're not checked right now, and bleed over into successful denialist agendas aimed at other crucial hinges in history like the Armenian genocide, the Trail of Tears, the Nazi...
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    Origins of Jesus Christ

    I think it time to talk turkey once and for all on the inherent flaws in the position taken by some that Jesus never existed, even as a simple non-miraculous human being. Positing that he was a simple non-miraculous human being is not at all ludicrous. So it's time for a reality check here on...
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