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I finally consulted with a New York Public Library specialist/scholar on this entire passage in the Samkara summary, and the hungry are definitely being dismissed here as a pointless consideration, rendering the notion of general feasts for the less well fed a definite waste of valuable time, in...

I want to thank those who have responded so far. I just wanted to add that I can only hope for more of the same from others here. With my appreciation, Operacast

Actually, I feel there's much to what you say. I'm not really looking for "that one text". An assemblage of three or four, each of which seem to the reader to reflect some aspect of deeply critical inquiry, would do just as well. Cheers, Operacast

Oh, nothing's off the table. But perhaps -- if you're interested -- you might want to specify which passages in such texts especially convince you. Up to you, Operacast

A question for the board: We may have touched on this more than occasionally, but I'm wondering -- regardless of whether or not we view the ultimate truth of things as indeed summed up in a god as traditionally understood or in something more intangible instead -- if there are any texts...

Still continuing to "noodle" this on my own -- incorrigibly, I guess. I've just recently started to wonder if perhaps [1] could be partly a tacit expression of admiration for the "indigent" having (apparently) effected a custom (of that ancient time) of dinner invites through their lucky...

No problem. I expanded at length on my thoughts of who and what deity is in a previous post at http://www.comparative-religion.com/forum/7707-post19.html (It's a bit of a slog, I'm afraid........) Actually, there I might not entirely agree. It seems to me that certain breakthroughs of a...

I'm most interested of all in this specific philosopher and the three statements at the top of the lineup -- the statements that come from the earliest source. Beyond perceiving many different things being addressed in individual statements, I'm most interested in what I perceive as a distinct...

Would you say that #[3] -- [3] "The wise should enjoy the pleasures of this world through the proper visible means of agriculture, keeping cattle, trade, political administration, etc." -- has a trace of a component of preferring public usefulness in it, or does it, like some of the other...

You are a sharp reader. There is a good reason for this seeming disjointed. These are from extant fragments (which are all we have) of the thinking of an ancient Indian philosopher of ca. 600 B.C.E. The fragments from those fragments that I chose here constitute the sum total that we have of...

Was glad to do it. I only regret that a much shorter post following yours was also lost and never arrived at my Inbox at all (I'm set up so I can receive alerts when there are new additions to threads where I participate; hence, my luck with yours; not sure why I never got a copy of the smaller...

[Regrettably, a posting has somehow disappeared from this page. Since I still have it in my Inbox, I'm taking the opportunity to restore it here without additional comment.] LeoSalinas22 first off, i don't believe in God.... i know God exists. now on to the question. the reason my hope...

I do hope nothing I said here seemed to foreclose further discussion. In fact, I am still sincerely interested -- please? -- in the extent to which anyone here might feel that [3] could be taken as partly addressing the responsible treatment of others and [9] an implicit recommendation of...

Although I was sort of hoping that I might resist from any prompting on my part as to which aspects especially intrigued me here until hearing from others, it may have been impractical of me to ask for any off-the-cuff reflections with no context of any kind. So I will simply say what chief...

Since putting that up, I've acquired a better, more scholarly translation of the text containing the first three paragraphs in this lineup. Here are the same three paragraphs from the newer translation: [1] "Chastity and other such ordinances are laid down by clever weaklings; gifts of gold...

It seems fair to ask for other posters' own takes on the extant fragments of this ancient philosophy/code: "Invitations to dinner are only thought up to benefit indigents. "The building of temples, resting places, and such like, please only travelers." "The wise should enjoy the pleasures of...

Hi -- I suppose I've been kind of in penance for a while for having lost my temper with a fellow poster, and so I've not felt like posting here, having been rather upset with myself. I'm delighted, though, to see that the poster I fought with is still posting here constructively, so that's...

Fair enough. But with respect, you still seem unclear. Sorry. Please, what was it in what I said -- hot-headed as it may have been with respect to jiii, for which I've already apologized -- that struck you as particularly "politically correct" in an especially irritating way? Could you explain...

I appreciate this is meant as a joke -- and I appreciate it. Thank you. I have to admit, though, that I guess I'm too dense to get the connection <ducking>.... Is it in connection with the general (and probably justified) exasperation around here with my short-temperedness with jiii? Thanks...

I hear you, and to an extent, you're right. It's the value of that that makes this forum so precious, and one of the reasons why I now regret my impatience and jumping to conclusions with jiii. It remains inexcusable and self-destructive on my part along with everything else. At the same time...