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    Jesus died: we're all saved?

    LunaMoth, With due respect, you claim ritual is present in all the major movements through our lives, and, as you describe, you are right... but none of those are bizarre in the sense of the body and blood of Christ. -------That is a) unnecessary, and b) irrational. As your excellent quote...
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    Can spirituality really be taught?

    the inner core of spirituality, like the inner core of music (and dance, while we're on the subject) cannot be created where it does not exist; but it can be nurtured where it does. ===== I reckon you are right, BB. It all comes down to the skills, however you define 'skills', I think...
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    Natural Justice: Does it exist?

    MITF, I am afraid I just cannot accept this, or let it go! lol "The material world is our invention. " It is not. Evidence is needed to claim it is a perceptual invention. There is plenty of independent evidence - that is not dependent upon how I personal perceive it - for the...
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    Can spirituality really be taught?

    Mathghamhain I agree with all the points you raise, and your conclusion. ---A great first post, not just because I agree with it, but because it is rationally argued and presented. Welcome. :cool:
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    A River of Dreams

    VC As I seem to have concentrated upon the visual, here are some aesthetic considerations for poetry, etc., beyond primary considerations of form and techniques: In literary aesthetics the study of affect, for example, creates an awareness of the deep structures of reading and receiving...
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    A River of Dreams

    VC Aesthetics is a branch of philosophy, at least as old as Plato, that studies beauty and taste, including their specific manifestations in the tragic, the comic, and the sublime. Its central issues include questions about the origin and status of aesthetic judgments: are they objective...
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    Natural Justice: Does it exist?

    Hi peaceful, Lunamoth! You say:Is even your body real? If it isn't, then please explain how an independent significant other like a Hospital Consultant could diagnose this body of mine without any input from myself. He concluded I was diabetic. What you hypothesise is fanciful, if I may...
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    Jesus died: we're all saved?

    :) Please don't go literal on me, depends on people's view of GOD! No food can grow without energy and the universal lifeforce. Every flower and plant as a lifeforce and different energy frequencies. The thing is that, in my opinion, SacredStar, it has nothing to do with any God beyond a...
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    Can spirituality really be taught?

    I can only but agree with you, SacredStar. You have used and explained a personal connotation and that is fine by me... if not others! lol:)
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    Jesus died: we're all saved?

    Is it not the case that it is ritual? The symbolism is plainly referred to by yourself SacredStar. What I question is the need for such a bizarre ritual. The analogy with body and blood seems to me clearly primitive, ritualistic to an extreme, and totally unnecessary, as we are dealing with...
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    Can spirituality really be taught?

    Just in case you misunderstand my last comments: esoteric means that which is intelligible only to those with special knowledge. Isn't that what all Christians claim? No one can be a Christian, an Hindu, or even a Pagan without at least partaking of what can be called the 'knowledge' in a...
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    Can spirituality really be taught?

    For instance a spiritual teacher that wishes to control, dominate or brainwash other's is against the true essence of spirituality e.g. unconditional love, acceptance, honoring others uniqueness and individuality, compassion. These teachers are operating from a place of desire of power for self...
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    What is the meaning of this Life and Death

    Dear Guru, Can you not see what you have said here? When I said "Follow the path of GOD" or "message of the good Lord" it only means live a life that has brought cheer to oneself and others around. GODs message is no different. One does not have to be a Hindu or Christian or even follower of the...
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    Natural Justice: Does it exist?

    www.drmunchie.com I think, SacredStar, you should not take the lady too seriously. Just review her references in the article. It is strange that the 'unknown' and the 'mysteries' are always labelled as 'mystic'. There is no mystic aspect of physics, quantum or otherwise; there is simply...
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    Natural Justice: Does it exist?

    "The prominence of the subjective factor does not imply a personal subjectivism, despite the readiness of the extraverted attitude to dismiss the subjective factor as nothing but subjective. The subjective is not as subjective as we think, for the deeper we reach into the psychic currents of...
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    Can spirituality really be taught?

    Incidentally, using a term like 'Gnosis' is not a wise thing to do... all it refers to is intuitive apprehension of spiritual truths, which happened to be an esoteric 'form' or 'type' of knowledge sought by the Gnostics. Intuitive apprehensions are notoriously unreliable in reality. Again...
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    Can spirituality really be taught?

    I don't know on what basis you draw your conclusions, SacredStar. With respect, I have yet to meet a Jesuit who is not sincere about his spirituality, or convinced of his personally validated truths. Their educational processes work. Their Spirituality can be learned through their...
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    Natural Justice: Does it exist?

    There is nothing to say that what is solely conceived of affectively in the hearts and minds of individuals is somehow 'wrong'. If they conceive that angels can be 'seen' they have to mean they see them 'in their own terms, affectively, in their own hearts and minds.' No one can disprove...
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    Jesus died: we're all saved?

    KASPAR questioned: Is it a valid claim that Christianity is about fear, selfishness, and personal reward not the charity and help of others? =================================== I think it is a perfectly reasonable and valid claim to make, Kaspar, irrespective of Biblical texts, including the...
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    Can spirituality really be taught?

    The Jesuits would say so, regarding the question: "Can spirituality be taught?" Does that equate to indoctrination or 'brainwashing'?
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