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The book is indeed and interesting one. I've been fortunate enough to hear John Spong speak or 4 times, always an excellent experience. I wonder if it would be good to have a book discussion forum here.

Waiting for fullness!

Because curiosity is linked with survival. What you ignore today may eat you tomorrow.

That is, of course, only IF you accept that Revelation is a prophetic book. It is not, it is apocalyptic, it's contents refer almost entirely to the early Christian period and the various persecutions suffered by the Christian community then.

Cyrus was a Zoroastrian.

Only found this now -- Thank you all!

Biggest chihuahua I ever saw was a chihuahua / border collie cross. I don't know how they managed it and I don't WANT to know.

Great site which I had found before and which I had (to my shame) forgotten about. Can I also mention the following site. Internet Sacred Text Archive Home

The Emphatic Diaglott. Benjamin F. Wilson, Geneva, IL: B. F. Wilson, 1864. The Holy Scriptures, Translated and Corrected by the Spirit of Revelation, by Joseph Smith, Jr. the Seer ... Joseph Smith, Jr., Plano, Illinois: The English Revised Version. C.J. Ellicott, ed., American...

First: I would point out that God gave us that which is between our ears as something other than a draft excluder. God intends us to use our minds to search out and understand. Second: The warning in Rev 22 refers SPECIFICALLY to Revelation NOT to the Bible as a whole moreover the 616 idea...

Begin with this from Wikipedia which is an accurate summary of the position. In Hugh Schonfeld's Authentic New Testament we find the following [/SIZE][/FONT] Schonfeld, Hugh J., The Authentic New Testament (1962) Panther Books, pg. 424, n.84

The number in Revelations is mistranslated, it should be 616 rather than 666. Kiwimac

The Gathas Source

The following is interesting; Source From a Jewish question and answer site the following: [/LIST]Source

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Not that I'm aware of. Vedic hinduism and Zoroastrianism are about the same age and involve the same group of people, the proto-indo-aryans. While some concepts are shared, they have reversed. (Daevas in Zoroastrianism are evil, while Hindu Devas are good.) Source: Wikipedia

Wil, There are still Zoroastrians in Iran. Those who moved during the influx of Islam became the Parsis of India but not all moved and not all converted. Today there are around 45, 000 still in Iran, those in India around the 100,000 mark. All up, there are probably around the 200,000 mark...

Wil, The earliest texts are the Gathas which were written in Old Avestan, a now-extinct language. Old Avestan and Vedic Sanksrit are very similar (so similar that it is the Sanskrit that modern scholars use to translate the Old Avestan.) And it is these similarities which help place the...

What effect has Zoroastrianism had on other religions? Let me quote from a site: Source What do you think of the claims made? Just how much can one religion influence another? What does such influence mean for claims of inspiration? for claims of uniqueness? Be interested to see what...

Couple of Zoroastrian sites: List of articles at Vohuman.org Article Index and Gathas only Zoroastrians