Ok obviously we don't know that this isn't just made up. We do have to trust that this is a legitimate quote from Christ. All religions require some faith. Obviously we don't know but if you don't trust any scripture nor the teachings of any church then you have nothing to go on with...
Re: Victor, Schmictor!
Yeah I made it through the second chapter and I realized how much of a waste of time it was. I noticed that he cuts off contradictory verses just at the right spot to support his Idea. And other times he says that something is in Paul’s writings that simply aren’t there.
Salvation can't be too fixated on by Christianity it is its purpose. However it can be misrepresented. I think the word Salvation is used most commonly in 3 ways. Two of which are right and one of which is wrong. The first of the correct is when you are baptized you receive the Grace needed to...
I agree with the first two paragraphs of this. A more accepted term for this heaven on earth is a state of Grace. This is true and by turning your backs on God one can also achieve a state of Hell on earth. As far as what you said about the after life this is my belief. When you die what...
I think you may misunderstand what I'm saying. From this excerpt it sounds as if I'm saying Christ says this he is God thus it is true but I'm not. I'm saying Christ says this if it isn't true then he isn't God. Christ founded a church. If Christianity is true that Church must still exist and...
I agree you can't possible judge others because to the one who more is given more is expected and to the one less is given less is expected. You have no Idea what the have received. They may not even know what they have received. However I don't think that this means you shouldn't point out...
QUOTE=lunamoth]When I hear someone say they are "saved" I usually assume that they mean that they that they acknowledge Jesus as their Lord, that they believe the Holy Spirit resides in their hearts, and that they will get into heaven (be close to God) when they die.
I don't mean this as an...
Well then the answer to your first question is simple being in heaven is the definition of being saved. I think that it is possible to be opening minded and have faith. Being open minded to the fact that you could be wrong doesn't mean you can't believe what you think is right. I'm open minded...
Well of course we don't know. Anything is possible. There is also a rumor going around that the Vatican has Elvis in it’s basement in all fairness that could be true but It doesn't mean it's likely. I can tell you that during the reformation & 7 books and part of Daniel where removed from the...
No you would not be required to obey Satan nor an apostate church because you are not required to follow authorities that go against the authority of God.
The Church prefers that they coincide like they normally do. Such as Jesus saying that Satan would never prevail against the...
I wouldn't want you to retract the statement if it's what you think I was just wandering why you thought they disagree. Most people think this because they have a misconception of what Paul teaches a misconception described in the first post WolfgangvonUSA made in the faith or faithfulness to...
May I ask what things does Paul say against the teachings of Jesus? And where does he claim to have been taught by the Apostles? Because a lot of people tell me this so it's probably there but I don't know where. Also technically all Christians are disciples of Jesus ;) but I know what you mean.
Why do you think they disagree? That is what are your Interpretations of Paul and James? I would say that Paul is saying that a man can't earn his salvation and that it is achieved by Grace. The saving Grace is achieved by living ones faith but one can't live their faith without the helping...
I'm assuming that JJIM is me. Like Abogado del Diablo says Jesus spoke of the second coming so it would make sense that books about Jesus would contain Information about it. However Luke (a Gentile Born in Syria a region Jesus never went) and Paul (someone who didn't become a Christian until...
Well I think I can help on this one. The reason Jesus acts this way is because as I stated in law of 2or3 thread Jesus was sent to the Jews. So he shouldn't be ministering to the Gentiles. However when the Jews reject him he sends his disciples to all people. This is my quote from that...
Hi I haven't read this whole thread I will but I feel the need to respond right now to this before I read on. So if this has been addressed then I'm sorry. This is not Paul's Message. He isn't saying that one merely needs to believe Christ died for him to be saved. This is the spin Luther...
Hello again I was hoping you would respond before I made this post but you haven't so I will go ahead anyway. Once again I ask that you forgive me for that misunderstanding about what you where writing and you don't let it effect how you value what I'm about to say. Yes Luke is the only one...
Re: Tarry not in Jerusalem but go to Galilee
Hi I'd like to apologize for my previous reply to this post. I was in a hurry and I miss read your post. I though you where saying rather than being in Jerusalem at Pentecost they should have been with Jesus in Galilee. Please excuse me. I also...
I did not say there was a conflict between Christianity and the Israelites religion. The way (Christianity) was a sect of Judaism and there was also a Pharisaic sect of Judaism. This man can't belong to two sects that are in conflict it is ludicrous. And how did Paul inject this in...
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