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And who just asked that? How did I know it was self? "wil" I ever know?

there's no fun in pure "that's purely ridiculous" (I thought to myself)

Maybe so...I'm just thinking here but... "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit." John 3:8 and "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end...

Yes, that would be sacriligious.

Oh yeah, it was electric, so frantically hectic And the band started leaving, cause they all stopped breathing Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Yeah And the man at the back said Everyone attack and it turned into a ballroom blitz And the girl in the corner said Boy, I wanna warn ya, it'll turn into a...

Many thanks! Haven't tried that... Hey! It works! IT'S ALIVE, ALIVE! mwahahah...

How do you get it to turn off if you change your mind? When you're selecting quotes, you apparently have to click the quote button after the last quote you select or something. Is that true?

I believe you are correct.:) "But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:" Malachi 3:2

Are you kidding? That's a cool (literally:D) concept - even "hell" rests on the sabbath.

Isn't there a story that birth defects come from babies that wrestle with the angel so as not to have Torah removed (forgotten)?

"This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that G-d is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:" 1 John 1:5,6

Thomas, Have really enjoyed your posts, including the fundamentalist discussions.:) Enjoy your studies and do drop a line from time to time. Very best regards and prayers, Mark

Sure. To me, the natural man is the "old, fleshy" man. the one before baptism of water and the Spirit. He doesn't understand the Spirit and doesn't realize any need for it. After baptism, the Spirit leads the "new man" into all truth, so his "eyes are open" spiritually. I guess sort of...

Perhaps He'd say... "He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man...

I think so. Yeah. Sin? You're losing me...so it's a good thing to be natural? Or is being natural something to overcome to understand G-d. Was Paul lamenting his un-naturalness? Complaining about having to die daily? My impression of the text is that he's looking at being natural in a...

I'll certainly agree with that! It seems like Paul is saying (text from 1 Corinthians 2:14) that being spiritual is not natural or not nature for most people. So does that mean that natural nature is sinful? Does that make spiritual nature, being "un-natural", unreasonable? Just thinking out...

BTW, There's plenty in the NT, too.

I know you didn't mean me but I'm really curious...(if you don't mind sharing here or by PM) how did you come to the place of being able to change your view of Jesus? I'm not asking to argue with you or anything. It's just that, when I was studying Islam, I almost converted, but couldn't get...

Hi Amy, I'm at a loss to know what to say and anything I could say seems trite. I'm sorry. I'll pray for you. Somewhere in this world is a puzzle with one piece missing. I'm sad. No man is an island, Entire of itself. Each is a piece of the continent, A part of the main. If a clod be...

Welcome to CR, Sunny! (better late than never:D) No, I generally agree with what you said. So would you say if you have too much goop, you're a natural man, "perceiving not the things of the spirit for they are spiritually discerned"? Regards, Mark