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I'm as confused as you are mee. If a Bible translation (NWT) can be dismissed as a "tract", what other Bible translations can be dismissed in a similar manner?

Apparently it was closed because you posted a link to the "wrong" Bible (NWT). Maybe it would help us to know which other translations are against the COC for this forum.

I think he means the blessings that a father gives to an eldest son for example... like the type of blessing that Jacob swindled Esau out of having from Abraham.

Interesting! Anywhere I can check this for myself? The Magi who visited infant Jesus were also Zoroastrians who expected his coming...

Ok, from what we can see (the symbol) there are two things in common between the symbol and Malachi4:2, and they are: 1) the sun; and 2) wings... However, from what we can see (the symbol) there are two things that I'm not sure are connected to the symbol, unless there's a proof text/tablet...

They're not teachings per se, but they give a parallel account of things like Creation, the First Man (Adam), the Deluge, etc. A great start would be to google "Enuma Elish", and "Adapa", they're my favourites.

According to Genesis, Babel was the place where our tongues were confused and the human race was fragmented... and here we are back where we started.

Wasalaam I think if Abu Lahab had tried to embrace Islam he would have been told "tough luck, Allah has already spoken and you (Abu Lahab) have been condemned". I think he would have been in the same position as Firaun (just before he drowned), or even Iblis... they're all too late, their...

So we're talking about parallels with the Sumerian Igigi/Annunaki, Interesting! .

I'm trying to understand you here, but what exactly is a "moral victory"? From and Abrahamic POV doesn't God have the final say when it comes to morality? I'm finding it difficult to conceive of a way in which Satan can have a moral victory over the author of morality... and surely Satan, who...

Because if he (Abu Lahab) had converted, Surah Abu Lahab would still stand and he would still be condemned to hell - unless it's possible to cancel a Surah after it has been revealed?

Nothing to loose? Anyone who believes that Satan exists, also belives that he WILL lose in the end. Even Satan would know that he CAN'T overthrow God, unless us Abrahamics have gotten it ALL WRONG about God and Satan.

So what if Abu Lahab did become Muslim? He'd have to recite the Surah Abu Lahab and believe that he was going to the fire. I don't see this as a prophecy at all, it's simply the doors of Islam being shut closed in the face of Abu Lahab - how could he become a Muslim, when being a Muslim now...

That's correct, part of a Muslim's objection to Christianity is the importance of Paul's teachings... and for a Christian to exchange Paul for Muhammad, well that would come across as unreasonable - Paul has written some of the most inspired scripture in the world. What is Love?

I have a radical proposition... If my fellow Muslims want to make it easier for Christians to accept Muhammad... I suggest we meet them in the middle and accept the Apostle Paul first!! ;) Now do you see why it's so hard?

Islam is pretty well carved up too, try putting a Salafi, Sufi, and a Shiite in a room together. I think with any religion you're going to get differences between individuals, and it's when the differences are dwelt upon that they become something more than what they started out as.

Thank you. As a Muslim, I haven't come across this particular saying of Muhammad, I would be interested in knowing where I can find it. I would say Christians reject Muhammad for the same reason that Jews reject Christ, Muslims reject Bahaullah, and Bahaiis reject Rael. The 'general' reason is...

For that to bear any weight with Christians or Muslims: 1. Jesus (and the other prophets) would have to be on record as saying that he (they) would return as Muhammad; or 2. Muhammad would have to be on record as claiming to be the return of all prophets. Since none of the prophets claimed...

lol yeah, I know what you mean... the point is not to make a public show out of prayer. Maybe I should have listed the one about "vain repetition" instead. A lot of Muslims fail to 'personalize' their prayers and just churn out set-formulas that are repeated time and time again. But seriously...

From a Christian point of view, some of Muhammads 'teachings' are very anti-Christian. And I'm a Muslim saying this!! Now we all know how a Christian feels about anything anti-Christian. Here are some of the teachings in Christendom that Muhammad's teachings contradict/negate: God is a...