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    Going through hell before we get to heaven

    I can eat you for breakfast, pal. For starters, you have no remote clue what Godel (and Turing and Chaitin) were talking about. It's all of physics.
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    Going through hell before we get to heaven

    "It's about comnplete and consistant" google that did you? What that means, is that at the end of the proof, there were two options, all mathematics, all logic, all computers, all DNA, etc. is either incomplete or inconsistant. Inconsistant is by far the more upleasant option, in that case...
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    What is Reality?

    Schrodinger, whose Wave Equation produced all the miracles of modern science, quit the Quantum Theory in disgust, saying he didn't like it and was sorry he ever had anything to do with it. He took in a much less disturbing subject, "What is Life" and wrote a book by that name. Watson, as he...
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    What is Reality?

    Consciousness is superstition, that's the point of the Turing Test. If you can't measure it with experiments, it doesn't exist. The trick is the trick of making Schrodinger's Cat either dead or alive when you open the box. You said it had to be a "conscious" entity and I was trying to figure...
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    All religions are anti-Women

    And it's pure deluded fantasy that Native Americans 2000 years ago gave full equality to women.
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    All religions are anti-Women

    Score, Jesus 1, the rest of the human race before 2000 years ago, 0.
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    All religions are anti-Women

    No quote gives full equality to women, and the documents in general certainly don't. Men and women both having bones doesn't give women full equality, if words have meaning.
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    Going through hell before we get to heaven

    No they aren't. A women being raped and murdered in the street, pacifism prevents you using violence to save her. The Golden Rule demands it. And "The Ultimate Truth is that there is no Ultimate Truth" is called a "Strange Loop" and can always be shown to involve self-reference. It is neither...
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    Did Marcion the Gnostic Write/Edit the "Genuine" Letters of Paul?

    I never said they don't preceed Thomas and I said none of them give full equality to women. And yeah, you aren't contributing anyting to the conversation, just one Strawman argument after another about what I said and believe. But off.
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    All religions are anti-Women

    Are you seriously claiming Hindus give full equality to women? Is that what you are claiming? Really? Because none of those quotes says so. Men and women both being bags of bones doesn't mean they are equal, sheesh.
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    Did Marcion the Gnostic Write/Edit the "Genuine" Letters of Paul?

    The "difference" is, the guy that thought up the God is the devil Second Century Gnostics, that almost defeated Christianity, is who the Christians get the Letters of Paul from, the only question is whether Marcion wrote and/or edited them. Paul's letters are a big deal in Christianity, and...
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    Did Marcion the Gnostic Write/Edit the "Genuine" Letters of Paul?

    And Davies never mentions Marcion in that FAQ. Sheesh.
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    Did Marcion the Gnostic Write/Edit the "Genuine" Letters of Paul?

    i don't believe he is right. how can i say it more clearly.
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    Did Marcion the Gnostic Write/Edit the "Genuine" Letters of Paul?

    And it must be ME you are accusing of hating Jews. What's that about? I suspect I'm rather more fond of them than you are.They're right up there with the Samaritans with me. And no, your Eleusinian mysteries didn't give full equality to women, or anything like it. But the Gospel of...
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    Did Marcion the Gnostic Write/Edit the "Genuine" Letters of Paul?

    It's a big deal in Christianity their struggle against the Second Century Gnostics that thought God was the devil, this was Hell, etc. The Christians wrote the history books and talked about them a lot. They didn't like them a bit. Here's Professor Stephan Davies talking about them in...
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    Did Marcion the Gnostic Write/Edit the "Genuine" Letters of Paul?

    From the 4:15 post: The word 'gnostic" means "knowledge" in Greek, no more and no less. If someone is "gnostic" it means they find enlightenment with the help of knowledge, that would include Socrates, Buddha, Jesus, Spinoza, Einstein, etc. They've been around forever. There's also other...
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    After nothingness?

    Many Words Quantum Theory produces the same exact Many Worlds that General Relativity and a closed Universe produce. Precisely the same. When the Universe comes close to the singularity, planck time or whatever, for all practical purposes, all information is destroyed. So, how do you know...
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    After nothingness?

    The Cyclic Universe PAUL STEINHARDT is the Albert Einstein Professor in Science and on the faculty of both the Departments of Physics and Astrophysical Sciences at Princeton University. He is one of the leading theorists responsible for inflationary theory. He constructed the first workable...
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    What is Reality?

    (Worth noting we are discussing the meaning of life and death from the viewpoint of the absolute foundation of current science. It has something to say on the subject.)
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    What is Reality?

    Do you have a scientifice experiment that measures "consciousness", I have no clue what you are talking about. How brain damaged does a person have to be to not be able to do the trick and at what point does it stop being conscious? Rats? Roaches? Bacteria? Viruses? The Great Red Spot? If we...
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