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Hi Radarmark! Glad to be here.

I donno' a lot of historians act like it's accepted fact that Nero blamed it on the Christians. Everything I've ever read. Not likely they did it. Josephus hated two kinds of people, those that tried to rise above their station, and those that made trouble for Rome. Of the troublemakers...

Hi Radarmark, yeah seems some thoughtful people here. The Thomas sayings most explicit about this being heaven here now, this is the Kingdom, are.... P.Oxy 654.9-21 J[esus] said, "[If] those pulling you [say to you, 'Look,] the kingdom is in the sk[y,]' the birds of the sk[y will go before...

Let me try this again, new here and the other one disappeared into the ether. Thomas 114 Simon Peter said to them: "Let Mary go away from us, for women are not worthy of life." Jesus said: "Look, I will draw her in so as to make her male, so that she too may become a living male spirit...

Ok, produce that 2000+ year old Native American (or any other) document that gives full equality to women. I'll bet the ranch you can't.

Paul has some paradoxes a lot more disturbing than Jesus' geneology. Jesus called God "Father" like a lot of magicians in the Jewish tradition. Elijah, Honi etc. Just about all kings claimed to be the son of a god. Alexander the Great and Zeus, Ra-Moses, (Son of Ra/Ramses), and Moses...

The Gospel of Thomas gives full equality to women if they want it. The first such document in history, religious or not. Explicitly in #114 and the female disciples, Mary and Salome, are the ones that get it. The men, it's about 50/50.

The Second Century Gnostics thought this is Hell. And the God of the Old Testament/Jewish Bible was really a devil god, although he did create this Universe/Hell. The kindly Father of Jesus was a different god, out to lunch somewhere, and if you got your head right, you could escape from this...

Nice Ben. Jesus was a big hit before Paul's "conversion". Paul had to go abroad to continue the persecution. The Jews were driven out of Rome because of the followers of a Crestus, not telling if that's Jesus, but it was definitely Jesus type Christians Nero blamed the burning of Rome on in...