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seatllegal, Thanks so much for that! I haven't even thought of, much less read, that Kipling poem for...well, more years that I'd like to admit to. It made me smile to read it again.

Even more so, how many mentions are made in Scripture of feeding the hungry, caring for the ill, clothing the naked, and so on? A compared to the (seven, I've heard) verses dealing with homosexual acts? Off topic, Brian, I very much appreciate that you show such a lively interest in this, your...

I guess what I'm having an issue with here is the word "indiscriminately". Are these things "haphazard" or "random"? Earthquakes don't happen everywhere. Tsunamis don't happen everywhere. These are not random events. When we say that natural occurances like earthquakes or cometary impacts or...

There's an interesting article on this subject on one of the Mar Thoma Church sites: http://www.marthomasyrianchurch.org/heritage.htm A dear friend of mine is an ArchBishop in the Mar Thoma Church (Malabar rite), here in California. He tells me that the Portuguese traders who regularly...

Uh. Yes, good and evil are entirely human cultural contructs. IMO. Nature is my darling, because She is the only darling, but I also know that She is sharp of tooth and bloody of claw. I would assert that this is not "evil". And, really, the natural world doesn't kill "indiscriminately"...

I am ever present to those who have realized me in every creature. Seeing all life as my manifestation, they are never separated from me. They worship me in the hearts of all, and all their actions proceed from me. Wherever they may live, they abide in me. -Bhagavad Gita 6:30-31

The greatest revolution of our generation is the discovery that human beings by changing the inner attitudes of their minds, can change the outer aspects of their lives. - William James

So when the great word "Mother!" rang once more, I saw at last its meaning and its place; Not the blind passion of the brooding past, But Mother -- the World's Mother -- come at last, To love as she had never loved before -- To feed and guard and teach the human race. - Charlotte...

Labour is blossoming or dancing where The body is not bruised to pleasure soul, Nor beauty born out of its own despair, Nor blear-eyed wisdom out of midnight oil. O chestnut-tree, great-rooted blossomer, Are you the leaf, the blossom or the bole? O body swayed to music, O brightening glance, How...

Chris, I think that the Dark Mother is scarier for men than for women, perhaps because women have a connection there - I think there's a bit of the hungry-maw Dark Mother in every woman.

Not to mention disorganized religions.

Ok, I'll give it a try. Seems I always have to use the same photo on every BBS because I allow so few pics taken of myself. BTW, I'm doing something-or-other with food at a party in this pic - I'm usually to be found fussing with food.

OK, so I'm a neophyte. I can't figure out how to post a pic here. Description: Middle aged (50 in July), dark auburn short curlyish hair, tallish (5'9"), stocky, green eyes, and I *hate* photos being taken of myself.

Chris/China Cat, I had no idea you were an Escher fan. Or is that poster in the background a reflection of your wife's taste?

I'm delighted to be able to use it here; I have a resonance with that image. Ecstatic dancing is part of my spiritual practice...

Panentheist. In particular, Pagan.

Well, there *is* darkness, just as there is light. There's this whole association thing, though - darkness being dangerous or deadly or frightening. And I think that's a species thing, because the darkness is not our realm, but that of nocturnal hunters. I think that a lot of the way we look...

I really hope that this doesn't get me in trouble, because there is one "naughty" word in it, but I'll chance it: Your "jaded elders...." mention made me think of this (I haven't thought of it in years - since I wrote it, in fact): Our Trad Filk by Käthe (To the tune of "This Land...

Thanks so much. If you have it on a website, it would be best if I could source it that way as I spread it around.

I imagine that if anything, the impact is minimal in terms of "recruitment"'. And, frankly, if the impact is that folks who read HP books and/or watch "Charmed" and "The Craft" come away thinking that perhaps the old condemnation of all Witches as inherently evil is inaccurate, then all to the...