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    Islam in the time of the advent of the Mahdi

    Can you give me a single example prior to the Bahai Faith where there was a volte face - I mean, any element of religion was highly condemned earler and was then recommended. For example, music - highly condemned in Islam, but highly recommended in Bahai Faith unveiling of women - highly...
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    The Bab

    At least you have acknowledged that the Prophet did not convert people at the point of the sword. He in fact forbade it. I never said that I should be the judge of your propriety. I said very clearly, that my thought process is fashioned out of what the Prophet (pbuh) and what the Imams (as)...
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    Islam in the time of the advent of the Mahdi

    Dear Scott: I dont understand what the Holy Prophet and the Imams said? So be it. The Day of Judgement is probably the most discussed element in Islam after the Unity of Allah. Allah informs us that the purpose of sending prophets was to warn them of divine retribution and give them the glad...
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    The Bab

    I am glad you made this post because it clarifies one thing very clearly and it is that you have not understood Islam. Islam is submission to the word of Allah - worshipping Allah how Allah wants you to worship Him and not how you want to worship Allah. If Allah is going to question us about...
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    Islam in the time of the advent of the Mahdi

    Dear Scott: Yup, this sermon is there in Nahjal Balagha and while I had located it, I was keen to see whether you had located it as well. The event being referred to is the Day of Judgement and not the arrival of the Mahdi. In each of the links you sent me, the line is translated as the...
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    Islam in the time of the advent of the Mahdi

    Dear Scott: All that is fine. You have not told me the Bahai viewpoint about Nahjal Balagha. If you dont have a Bahai viewpoint, can you share your own please. I keenly await the exact citation. Dont worry about the source language. Just tell me where the quote exists in Nahjal Balagha...
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    The Bab

    Thank you for this response as well. Indeed, it clarifies a lot of concepts and from where you are coming from. Thankfully, Islam is submission to the will of Allah. We worship Allah as Allah wants us to worship him and not how we want to worship Allah. So as per Islam the bounds of propriety...
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    The Bab

    Read my post about the part whrrein I have given you verses of the Quran, traditions of the prophet and the Imams about the condemnation of music in Islam. It took you all of 2 minutes to say that bahaullah changed the rules, Quran does not say anything about music and that the rest was...
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    Islam in the time of the advent of the Mahdi

    Good, very good. Now tell us where this occurs in Nahjul Balagha? I am asking only so that I can read it in its source language and check your translation of the same. FYI, sermon 102 does not have 2 parts... Also,can I know what is the opinion of the Bahais about Nahjal Balagha - do the...
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    The Bab

    Read my earlier post again - At the outset, I had mentioned that the Bahais summarily dismiss information put to them. You have just reinforced my belief for that. I spent two days for research and it took you two minutes to dismiss it. By rejecting the traditions, you have shown how the Bahais...
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    The Bab

    Not quite. Not a single question from the Bahais has been met with anything remotely close to deafening silence. You see unlike the Bahais who summarily dismiss information put up to them, I take my time to do my homework and then give a reply! So here goes.... Imam Saqid (as) says: Allah...
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    The Bab

    Not quite. Not a single question from the Bahais has been met with anything remotely close to deafening silence. You see unlike the Bahais who summarily dismiss information put up to them, I take my time to do my homework and then give a reply! So here goes.... Imam Saqid (as) says: Allah...
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    The Bab

    Not really as simple as you make it out to be. It is no coincidence that that the concept of the Day of Judgement is so ingrained in Islam and in the Muslim psyche. The teachings of the prophet are very detailed when it comes to the day of judgement. They are not superficial at all. Regards,
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    The Bab

    You are telling what I already know. You forget that I have read Bahai books too. I am glad you have clarified it here on the forum so that ordinary Muslims like myself know that: 1. There is no corelation between the Islamic viewpoint of the Day of Judgement and the Bahai concept of the same...
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    Many Iranian lay societies are dedicated to persecuting Baha`i's

    You may want to read my web site once again - there are atleast 3 places wherein I have specifically mentioned that if any of the references which I have placed or quoted, if found incorrect, I will be happy to change it - and publicly acknowledge it as well. As regards Wikipedia, it was a...
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    Many Iranian lay societies are dedicated to persecuting Baha`i's

    You are absolutely correct. If I wanted to comment on all those items, I would find another forum - I would not be here. Is this your way of telling me that you are not going to answer my questions? Also dont call me anti-Bahai just because I asked you some questions which you did not like...
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    The Bab

    My comments: 1. Every word quoted by you is a "verse". But every "tradition" I bring is a tradition and vulnerable to forgery or hearsay. Even when you bring "verses" from "Selected Writings of the Bab". In that sense, every "tradition" from the prophet would be classified as a "verse" as the...
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    The Bab

    Sorry Scott, if I was not able to make myself clear - I meant verses from the Quran - and you can take the cake - you have brought what are effectively Bahai traditions! And you wanted me to avoid Islamic traditions. I had to write an entire post about that!! Regards,
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    The Bab

    Traditions are important to understand the verses. Without them, a person can interpret and / or misinterpret the verses as he likes. I can give you the example of Namaz - The Quran claims that every knowledge is encompassed in it. Yet it is not clear about 2 units of dawn prayers, 4 units of...
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    Birth of the Baha'u'llah

    Is not my court or my ball and I am definitely not the referee. I could put the same argument to you as well. My focus is belief and not politics. Dont let this issue come in the way of what could be a very enlightening and interesting discussion. Regards, Imran
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