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At the outset, I dont want you to believe that the Bahai Faith is in error. What you believe is your problem not mine. I will lie alone in my grave and you in yours. Depending on who is right, the Holy Prophet or Bahaullah, our fate will be decided. And please dont try to insult our Prophet by...

uh huh. Sure. careful and balanced is correct. Regards Imran

Scott: I thought the rules of this board prevented people from making personal attacks. The admin should recognise this given that I was given, what I believe was an unfair warning. Two can play at that game. Yes? Regards Imran

I am sorry, but I really could not see what it establishes. Is a historian allowed or not allowed to make a comment on his observations. And he was there. Will you dismiss him because he said something the Bahais dont like?

This is where you are completely mistaken. Nothing of Shii Islam is remotely close to the coming of the 12th Imam after 1,000 years. In fact the most authentic tradition from the 12th Imam to his last representative clearly says that the one who fixes the time for re-appearance is a manifest...

Really does not establish anything.If at all, it appears that Browne was positively inclined towards the Bahais and the Babis. Also, read the entire introduction, it should how Bahais and not Babis altered the Babi texts and distorted history! Regards Imran

Thanks for the clarification. I recognise that the period was a difficult one for the Babis. Having said that, I hope I can appeal to your rational side to recognise the impact of your words. Here we have a religion - Islam in force for 1400 years which the Bab claims to have abrogated. We...

Once again, you have misinterpreted my words. Please do re-read them. I did not say that I dont like what Cole said. I said that I respect him, but as regards his views, he will come second to Browne, who was actually present as the movement unfolded. Nothing in this statement even hints at me...

Is there some documentary evidence for your statement? Something that establishes conclusively that Browne had his own political agenda? It seems to be an established fact. I would appreciate it if you clarified it further. The icing on the cake would be if you could establish it from an...

As regards Babi records, read E G Browne's comments. Unlike Juan Cole, he had the good fortune of being present while the movement actually took place. I will rate E G Browne higher than Juan Cole (much as I have respect for his views as well) simply because Browne was actually there - in the...

So if there is an Azali version, can we please have the Bahai version of the books? Bahaism is important to Shiahs. The Shiahs believe in 12 Imams. By claiming without any proof that the Bab was the 12th Imam, Bahais have ruffled the very doctrine of the Shia Faith. So yes, Shiahs will require...

Thank you. I recognise that. And rightfully so in my view. These books contain material which explicitly contradict the very foundation of the Babi and consequently, the Bahai Faith. All I am asking is that one can easily dismiss the books as forgeries. That is fine. But given that the UHJ is...

C'mon Art, when you talk about a process of review, I can understand if it were a book running into thousands of pages. Dalaelus Sabah as I know it and the copy I have is extremely small. And it is a complete copy. Why would they not release the book or complete the translation? Could they not...

Hi Scott: We have no other reference from the Bab about "Whom Allah will Manifest" except that he said the words that "Whom Allah will Manifest" will well manifest himself. No other statement which is found in "official" Bahai versions of the Bab. If one reads the other books of the Bab, one...

Hi: It will help if you can read message #16 again and my replies were in relation to the quote outlined by Art in that message. Also, as a general policy, as my posts will show, I will tend towards those arguments which have some sort of backing in terms of references - pure conjecture is...

We can do general Islam wherein both Sunni and Shiah points are covered. Regards Imran

Hi Scott: Still here. Am glad you testified to the fact that I was prompt in removing your name from my mailing lists. Regards Imran

Aha, you are wrong my friend - read my web site, and you will find all the sources you want there. Read God Passes by...etc

Hi, happy to be back! I visited this forum just to see what was new in terms of discussion and it so saw that there were many questions which were put up. So here I am again. Your response was to my question about any verse in the Quran which points to the coming of a new Messenger. All the...

Dear Brian: I am bound to Islam till I receive sufficient proofs about the Bahai Faith. That truth will be available only through deliberate questioning wherein views are exchanged. If I were in the market for vegetables, I would buy what is available. But I am not doing that. I am considering...