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    Fulfilment of a modern pro-Zionist prophecy in the Quran

    Thomas, everybody is aware of the House of Wisdom in Baghdad, the society of Moorish Spain and the Jewish-Muslim society in mediaeval North Africa. It's a drag to point out the obvious, that is my contention. To the man on the street this might need pointing out, but you are better researched...
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    Fulfilment of a modern pro-Zionist prophecy in the Quran

    Yes there is a joint destiny between the Muslim and Jewish people, we have a prophecy that a great reformer will one day be born, called the Mahdi, and he will reveal the lost Ark and the True Torah, from a mountain somewhere in modern Syria. From this event, most of the world's remaining Jewry...
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    Before Life -- Rumi (what do you get from it?)

    @stranger Speak again in a few weeks maybe? Peace bro :)
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    Before Life -- Rumi (what do you get from it?)

    Thank you @stranger, you are always polite in a vanilla situation and that is a core indicator of faith. I think you have already encapsulated a lot of Sufism in that manner because you have set your sights on the true goal, rather than the distractions. I'm unsure what the cited poem in your...
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    Fulfilment of a modern pro-Zionist prophecy in the Quran

    Re: the OP: l've honestly no clue what you are trying to say and as usual with obscure concepts, they are intricate, yet weak, ephemeral. It reminds me of Qur'an 29:41: "lo! the frailest of all houses is the spider's house, if they but knew." Yes, the Jewish spirituality borrowed massively...
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    Evolution is Unscientific

    Hello. I'm back for a quick bout but then l have to leave again. Thank you for this question. I had initially thought l had answered this in my OP re: Antibiotic resistance being natural selection, not evolution by gene mutation i.e. nothing new under the sun i.e. frequency of one form...
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    Self imposed exile begins again. Work reasons. Rather not though.

    Self imposed exile begins again. Work reasons. Rather not though.
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    This puts the horse before the cart. The horse is they couldn't kill Christ's soul. The cart as per my argument is they can't destroy any soul. Not that any human can even conceivably destroy any soul. The cart is that no soul will be destroyed by God - period. Because doing so is a...
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    Ok i'll bite - briefly. Some interpreters - you claim - assert that the Qur'an claims they killed Christ bodily but could never kill his soul! And so we link up to the transmigration of souls hypothesis which l'm guessing is somewhere in the video but anyway it's a well known nudge nudge wink...
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    Seems the site is down? The veil site i mean.
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    The soul is never killed so those views don't make sense. Those views directly contradict the Qur'an. You have to inject meanings and inject hard to make it otherwise (as l note by your explanation). Orthodox Islam is not esotericist. The extreme sects are by nature esotericist. There is a deep...
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    Evolution is Unscientific

    After all is said and done, l have no problem with it because those who are giving abuse or avoiding the question are only highlighting my position that: 1. There is no scientific observation of a genetic mutation leading to evolutionary advancement, in the lab or in the wild - yet it is the...
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    Ok thanks for explaining. Apologies for being a bit frayed back there. I hope you see i wasnt trying to win you over - that would be bad manners by me on your own religion's thread. I'll try to be back one day but l'll try to avoid this subforum as it's your space. Peace :)
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    ] I am saying: he goes against the Qur'an, and thus against those with-the-document, i.e. the Orthodox, which is "us" and so these alt views are baseless to "us". :) EDIT: i was responding to your generalisation about "modern muslim scholarship" being your preferred source, with a counter to...
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    Hello can l ask why you would think l would enjoy that nearly 50-minute video? :p Here are reasons l would not enjoy it: 1. It is link hurling, something l am averse to, it downgrades the quality of a debate if it is made the core of a point being made, rather than a take-or-leave curio. 2. That...
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    Evolution is Unscientific

    Quote from my OP: You are being wilfully ignorant of logical fallacies. You are using logical fallacies as the core of your statements. Your statements contain nothing in response to my OP, my OP is asking for evidence of gene mutations leading to evolution. You are providing nothing of the...
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    By the way, l'll admit, 19:33 is about as close as you'll get to the Christian narrative of death on cross, then ascension. But it doesn't actually explicitly say that, and the rest of the Qur'an's statements on the matter don't say that so l'm happy just to say it means: born, die (as returned...
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    Right. Let me know if you feel l have done so. It is against my religion to mock other religions. Debate them sure, but not mock. So l will genuniely take a look at what l've written if you request it.
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    @Thomas, please understand that the main division of Muslims - the Orthodox - do not have any doubts about Jesus. Please disabuse yourself that we are in disarray over this!!! :) I mean this nicely. Please take this from a either myself or any other Sunni (the mainstream of my religion). It...
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    Thoughts on Incarnation

    Notice how almost everybody uses the noun "Muslim". A minority of people spell it "Moslem". This has actually come to have dark significance. I'm on the fence about it, l don't want to micromanage a person's writing style but yeah, it does have dark meanings at the moment with the rise of some...
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