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    The real meaning of 'Sin'?

    I know I am only a guest in this forum. I essentially agree with you; we should follow the laws we received from the prophets, all of them, at the limit even if we don't know their name, but then it is difficult, even impossible to know whether we follow the Word of the Most High or an idea of a...
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    Can God be insulted?

    .. depends on whether the "authority" is respectful as well. We have to respect rules that are founded on consent or at least an absolute majority of the people, and respect God. But I refuse to obey people who would force me to act against my values, and ulema who claim to be able to know the...
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    On Fallen Angels

    I see this tradition going back to Zostrian/Parsic//ancient Persian myth. The "Minor Spirit" (Shaitan) opposed the "Major Spirit" (God). The "Major Spirit" accepted the challenge for "1000"years. The Parsic traditions have been written down late in the Khorda Bundahishn, but I think that they...
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    Can God be insulted?

    We have a humanoid image of God, which helps us to pray, to understand the teachings that would lead us into a life in accordance with God's creation and the right action in our society. But God, the principal, the principle, the final One holding all, is not human at all. If we assume that God...
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    What Haram truly means

    Haram, not Harem. Of course, religions partly disagree, but there's much more in common between Halacha and Sharia than what is different. Are you talking about worldly ruling? In whom could you trust if you don't trust God? According to what religion? I don't believe in astrology. No...
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    What Haram truly means

    Yes. We have the Quran and the tradition (hadith).
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    The Ambiguity of Early Christianity: How we misread Paul

    Yes, we can, but most of us don't want to radically observe all that Jesus has preached to his disciples according to the accounts we have. However, there are three things to mention: - His teachings are given as an ideal and they can't be observed without failure, but they have to be seen...
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    Babylonian Talmud

    I have also read a lot in the Talmud and it still makes a low percentage of the whole. There's a lot of wisdom in it, but also deductions that don't seem to be well-founded. I appreciate the variety of opinions in it. If I compare it to my religion, Islam, it seems to me rather like a scholar's...
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    Drinking wine to early

    You asked for an answer from Cristians. I give you an informed Muslim anwer, if you don'n mind. Wine played a role in Jewish ceremonies; e.g. on Seder, you take four sips of wine. You will probably not get drunk of it, and not become an alcoholic if you do that once a year. Indeed, alcohol does...
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    The Ambiguity of Early Christianity: How we misread Paul

    Can you post and example?
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    The Ambiguity of Early Christianity: How we misread Paul

    I have focused on the Gospel accounts rather than on Paul. Yet according to the canonical Gospel accounts, Jesus is quite radical in disrespecting luxury and worldly power, although he doesn't see ascetism as a merit, rather as a consequence to live with if it is due. The Gospel "of Thomas"...
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    The Ambiguity of Early Christianity: How we misread Paul

    I have also observed that early Christianity was a voluntary "communist" society. The difference to later Marxist communism being that they were united in God, and all was voluntary, as th eKingdom of God as preached by Jesus is not based on obediance but on faith and love for God. This...
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    The Ambiguity of Early Christianity: How we misread Paul

    Hello Thomas At first glance I thought it was you who transalted the New Testament, until I read the link. But as it is you who posted this link, what point of interest do you want to focus on? In what does Hart's understanding of the texts differ from the established main stream translatins...
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    Did Christ Say Be Ye Transformed?

    We have no knowledge on all this. We don't know whether he can now regret what he said (of course, it's possible that he can, but in this case, I don't see a reason for that). We can only know what has been written about what he said, and speculate on the authenticity of the teaching (I opt for...
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    Did Christ Say Be Ye Transformed?

    Is Paul teaching a transformation in this physical life, or before entering the perfect Heaven? There's a hadith saying, Abu Sa’eed al Khudree (رضى الله عنه) reports that the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و سلم) said, “when the believers cross the Hellfire, they will be stopped at a small arched...
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    Did Christ Say Be Ye Transformed?

    Jesus said that we should be reborn in the spirit, having a spiritual personality besides the body which, in contrast to the body, is immortal. There's no transformation. The body grows and perishes, the spirit won't perish if we take heed, but it can grow (parables of the seed) I reject the...
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    Survival of the kindest...

    That theory of the proliferation of the genes is naturally correct in that the mere proliferation of the species proliferates the genes of the parents only. But it tends to forget the component of the survival and the success. Not only, but more than other animals, the humans have other means of...
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    Happy Rosh Hashanah

    Peace be with you on Yom Kippur and therafter.
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    Try the Trinity.

    My point is that the Father and the son/Son are not equal; the oneness with God has no equivalent counterpart in a oneness of God with a human, be it even God's chosen Messiah. In ideal oneness, the soul of the human is in full harmony with God and the works of the human are in full harmony with...
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    Try the Trinity.

    Sounds good, but does it withstand a closer look? Let's step back to the image used: The father (lowercase) loves his children. True for a normal father. The son loves his father: usually true if the father loves the son. But the love of the father to the son is a different kind of love than...
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