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  1. talib-al-kalim

    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    Paul's contribution to the mission outside Judea was certainly important; that's why his epistles have become part of the NT. But when he went to Damascus, there was already a Christian community. Mark went with Barnabbas and Peter. Thomas is reported by weaker sources to have gone eastward...
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    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    The format seems to have a bug that it is not possible to write something under a table. My quotes above show that deeds are also necessary according to the teachings of Jesus. That's what the Quran teaches: Have faith and do good.
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    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    Mt 7:21-23 Lk 6:46 Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? Lk 13:26-27 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not...
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    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    Mark probably wrote the earliest Gospel account, probably shortly before 50 CE. Most of Paul's epistles are probably earlier. Luke knew Mark's account and wrote the Gospel and the Acts accounts before Paul's death.
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    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    I see him as a respectable scholar who contributed to the spread of the teachings of Jesus. He hardly ever quotes Jesus; his teachings are certainly close to what Jesus taught, but also his own. What teaching of Paul do you see contradicted in the Quran?
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    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    I see Islam as a religion comprising Christianity, Judaism and the Ishmaelite tradition. The Quran superseeds a great part of the teachings of the Ishmaelite tradition that had become a hierarchical polytheist religion, confirms a great part of the Law of Moses (it was/is not clear whether or...
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    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    Quran 3:35 The Angels said, “O Mary, God gives you the Good News, a Word from Him. His name is the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, well-esteemed in this world and the next, and one of the nearest. He will speak to the people from the crib, and in adulthood, and will be one of the righteous.” She...
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    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    Not true. Not true True. I will edit and explain this later.
  9. talib-al-kalim

    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    I try to do so as well but I do. The Quran enlightens the Bible, and the Bible enlightens the Quran.
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    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    Jesus is just, and he's righteous, and he is a prophet, that's already much. The Quran confirms that he is the Messiah, with all this implies without repeating the entire Gospel.
  11. talib-al-kalim

    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    According to the Quran, sent Mary His Word and His Spirit. The revealed Word is part of His all-comprising Principle/Logic/Law, the outside. The Spirit is God in us, the inside.
  12. talib-al-kalim

    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    Is God not with you? Jesus was given the name God Saves. Who saves? God doesn't conform anyway. His Word and His Spirit is. The righteous prophets spread out what they received from it, that we may conform us to His rules and His Kingdom.
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    Do serve God...or a 'Trinity'?

    It's not taught anywhere in the scriptures. Adonai and Kyrios, like Lord is used for God but not exclusively. There are around 700 persons in the UK who are entitled to be addressed by Lord so and so, including Barons and Dukes who would be addressed as such because it's a higher title. Jesus...
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    Muslim Reformers

    How do they organise? Do they found separate congregations (in particular, local) or do they join where they are not refused ?
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    Muslim Reformers

    You are insisting in a simplistic understanding of the Quran and a simplistic understanding of the reception of the Logos to keep saying that it is nonsense. Nobody understands what he doesn't want to understand.
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    Muslim Reformers

    I didn't read that book. It's true that Islam had its time of splendor before 1300 CE, with great theological scholars from Hasan al-Basri, Abu l-Hudhail, Al-Ghazali, Ibn Rushd until Rumi, and the splendor of Islam was suffocated by the intolerance towards free thinking. The same happened...
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    Muslim Reformers

    Yep. Islamists threaten all Muslim who don't share their ideology. I would hesitate to publish with my real name here on this forum because my approach and my findings on the Message we received are very much opposed to theirs, so that I would likely end up in their elimination list.
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    Evolution is Unscientific

    God does not need love. We need to love to be in harmony with the all around us. God does not need gratitude. We need to be grateful for and respectful to all around us, because there's plenty, in particular if we all know what we really need. There's rain and sunshine. Sometimes, there is too...
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    Evolution is Unscientific

    referring to my statement, I consider the creation narratives as myths, i.e. a story with a message, not a report on what happened. We can know this from the scientific evaluation of all observations in biology, chemistry, astronomy and physics. But with all our science, we are not able to know...
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    Evolution is Unscientific

    Don't put the believers in one pot. I have never come across a creationist who told me that in real life. I've never been in the U.S.A either...
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