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Arrogant, really? Sorry about that.

I think you're getting hung up on the words. They don't mean anything of themselves, they point to something. Forget them if it makes it easier. Word "ultimate" can also mean what is left over after everything else is subtracted. Like saying that is what it all seems to boil down to. Only...

My poor little ACOT. You really are trying way too hard here. Kind of like trying to sleep, or trying to love someone. It is the trying that is getting you all tangled up, like asking the little centipede how she keeps track of which leg should come next. She lays in the ditch unable to move...

I think so too. His laughter would ring out like a bell! Like thunder and wind, blowing away even our very thoughts until all that is left is just...that. Next, the awareness comes that we are that.

Now you're getting it! The Tao that can be talked about isn't the Tao. Like the concept of God or anything else. As soon as it is named it is lost. And that which we cannot name is the ultimate truth. The Buddha taught that all is one, that is nirvana, but if the slightest distinction is made...

I've watched people make cookies, so I know where they come from.

What I find most amusing is that while there have been posts that wish to deconstruct my OP, not one has addressed it directly. Ok, I can play in that ballpark as well. When I say the ears and eyes do not see, I mean that most people think of eyes and ears as holes in the head through which pass...

What an incredibly creepy practice. Kind of like a ritual killing to prove you are a member of the gang. Sheesh!

I started to read the first chapter. Childish, and poorly written. The author makes a false assertion in the first paragraph, and then continues to build on a fallacy. More ego than God.

When people began to take the texts literally, they lost the metaphor. Joseph Campbell often lamented this phenomena. It's too bad really, because if you begin to read the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, the Talmud, or the Holy Bible and understand the metaphor the spiritual riches these...

Well yeah, unless you see into the metaphor. Satan is the trickster, the joker, a vital aspect of the human psyche, but as everything has an up and down side, this behavior if taken too far is likely to be harmful and in the end lead to a halt in your growth, i.e. spiritual death.

You might be interested to know that I don't think it's like that either. I think that our perceptions of reality are the illusion, not the dirt, the rocks, the trees and all that. When I practice mindfulness meditation I see everything as it is, and sometimes I learn that I am mistaken about...

Yes, it is, and it isn't. Note that many of us have an idea about what reality is, and we constantly differ about what that is, therefore the common idea of reality is just an idea. So even your idea of "plain old reality" is arbitrary and may not be an intersubjective experience. Therefore I...

Okay, so how would you define "ridiculous notion" and apply that to the concept of "ultimate reality"? Perhaps you might expand on your thought a bit to help us out.

I think I remember that quote... ;)

Oh Wil, of course he isn't a bot....click...bot....click..bot.....

Yes, I agree. I'm sensitive to bullshit and phonies as well. I think Western people do need some help unlearning some things, and by whatever means that happens at least it happens. People are showing signs of awakening, but you have to look closely, there aren't that many. As you know...

Ah, the Bhagavad Gita! That line makes me think of how when one thing becomes two, we look to the opposites rather than the one from which they emerge! Is Western culture your culture of origin? I ask because those of us raised in the Western world tend to think that everything we do needs to...

Western psychology is beginning to understand that certain human behaviors, done for their own sake alone, are critical to thriving. In Taoism, this principle makes for an entire world view, seeing existence as happening in the same way as a dance unfolds, or a symphony played, each moment...

I always considered ACIM to be a course one took, and upon completion set aside. Many people I know meet regularly and keep going back through the lessons time and time again. It is this behavior I think makes it into a religion rather than the bridge I believe it was intended to be.