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Final draft (sorry for the confusion!): Photo of a Beautiful Mind How many questions Have I asked that were loaded? How many times Has my head exploded? But the grief I got I had goaded. Finally, my firmament of knowing eroded.

Revision in line 5-6: But I got no grief I hadn’t goaded.

If I would die tomorrow, please keep this as a memorial/souvenir: Photo of a Beautiful Mind How many questions Have I asked that were loaded? How many times Has my head exploded? But the grief I was given I had goaded. Finally, my firmament of knowing eroded.

I love your insistence about the need for us not to allow specific thoughts to get in the way of (a theoretical?) whole-mind awareness. And that may well mean we need assistance from a dimension deeper than we normally identify with and operate from.

Thanks for those good suggestions. I’ve read some of Merton’s works, so, out of comfort and trust, I’ll probably begin with it.

Reminds me of the belief behind the Tibetan Book of the Dead, the importance of being mentally prepared for transition after death

All I really care about is whether we have the potential to grow. If the potential is actualized by another dimension, I’m perfectly fine with that. As long as we are appropriately, healthily, constructively, EMPOWERED to grow spiritually. I suppose you could say the butterfly is a different...

Analogous to SETTING a radio “tuner” close enough to God’s channel… that is

Your interpretation of Abrahamic beliefs about soul actually supports my main (attempt at a) point here. If soul is not merely an artifact wholeness, but is in some real sense a separate thing, then it is a tool we can pick up and use in order to increase the unity of human and Divine, to...

I believe you are right. It was Paul, not Christ, that said it, and, as Thomas pointed out, wasn’t emphasizing the human mind’s potential to reset, so much as God’s potential to transform us if we open up to, or align with, a beyond sort of Divinity. Nonetheless, I would argue that if the human...

This (that I said earlier) would be a skill or process that would, in effect, re-create such “unity.” Question is, can we DO what I am describing below? When we let go and let God, are we doing what I describe below. I tend to think it is the case, that we are doing something like this...

Certainly not “self” as an individual object/being. And we DO tend to identify with that lesser self.

The belief in an inside out process of learning to do God’s will IS in line with the notion that Christ himself well COULD have said “Be ye transformed.” Do you think Christ believed we have it in us to change and grow by intentionally changing the way we think? If, so, I had the spirit of the...

At least that’s one thing we agree on!!!!

Wow! This thread would have been much shorter if someone had merely said “No, Christ did NOT say that! But was he THINKING It?!!! Was Paul suggesting that Jesus would want us to grow spiritually by learning about the Great Spirit? Copied this from internet search: Paul tells us to abandon...

So Christ did not say “Be Ye Transformed?” It was gleaned from what Paul was saying when referring to Christ? Thanks for clarifying

I guess I see “wholeness” as also representing Divine and human. To me there can be no wholeness of being without the Ground of Being (Paul Tillich’s reference to God). And because I see wholeness as having Divinity baked into it (or as Divinity eclipsing it?) , your second point makes perfect...

Thomas, As usual, you do a great job pushing me to the limits of my rational deliberation! That’s why I give it a thumbs up. My tendency to think poetically does seem to frequently blur the line between analogy and a more objective or logically consistent kind of truth. I’ll do the best I can...

This, that you said on the Trinity thread seems very aligned with my concepts here. We seem to be on the same, or at least similar, “page.” LightWithin’s views also seem to be on the same (or similar) page. I think I share with Lightwithin what I call a “Supra-natural” emphasis when it comes to...

Certainly more and greater than my meager individual mind can conceive, but comforting to think that God, Mind Itself, informs (puts some of the form into) my highly speculative thought.