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    I believe in good!

    Really liked this. Thanks
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    I believe in good!

    Glad to hear of the sea change towards greater inclusion and likely step towards a worldview of interdependence. Sorry for crossing the line with my recently posted thread. I can see how you and others came to that decision, and I accept your verdict, guilty as charged. But a mitigating...
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    Try the Trinity.

    I’ll look that up!
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    Try the Trinity.

    Liked that. A lot
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    I believe in good!

    I believe the Dialectical can be “played” in the “key” of synthesis. So ready to raise the Phoenix from the ashes. Always ready to make lemonade from lemons
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    I believe in good!

    The old traditional “flesh” and “spirit?” Flesh/matter(classical objects) tends towards wave function collapse? Spirit tends towards greater quantum coherence, wavelike characteristics. Akin to the Biblical reference to people being clothed in light, lit up? I like your be your own guru theme...
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    Try the Trinity.

    I think true spirituality and religion (applying the spirituality) is a participation sport, not a spectator sport.
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    Try the Trinity.

    Yes, beyond, but clearly (to most of us here willing to take the time to discuss it) not beyond reach, not not connected to those physical processes. Mind and matter interact. I probably agree way more than I disagree with your views, but I do seem to think the divine shines through to the point...
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    Try the Trinity.

    I have issues with the Messiah thing. I think spiritual interface by means of showing us how to connect to a deep God zone works better. An agent needed to save us is still an outside in approach instead of an inside out approach. Even in the movie Trolls, the princess Troll enlightened the...
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    Try the Trinity.

    From a physical existence point of view, “God” is from another dimension that can somehow enter into this one. The entering action, the flow, could be considered the Holy Spirit. It would have the location and ways of a quantum realm. To the degree that any human becomes Christ-like, “anointed,”...
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    Try the Trinity.

    Wil, I too am a philosophical Idealist, believing Mind to be ultimate reality, and that our individual minds are chips off the old Universal Mind block. I am still processing your thoughts here, but they already resonate well with my line of thought.
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    I believe in good!

    Quantum mechanics (workers) doing quantum mechanics (work) bring more quantum coherence to classical objects.
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    I believe in good!

    Yes, When “bad” outside, we can, and often DO, go deep inside to a convergent zone not clearly knowable that we may call “God.” The naturally convergent, interconnected, nature of that deep zone functions as a base of Wholeness which then can be applied to the brokenness and deficit/lack of the...
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    I believe in good!

    Dao Yin, I was thinking today that perhaps the number one “good” thing is wholeness. When we individually or collectively are operating out of a base of wholeness (which may be what we mean by “God?”) the highest degree of positive potential can flow. Partness or brokenness tends to limit...
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    I believe in good!

    The Arrival “Your package has arrived.” You asked, now receive. Just go to your door. It has arrived— Not coming, ARRIVED, Not being delivered by a Savior or Owner of the means of production. Maybe though Someone could offer an Example of how to Open your door, Leave you...
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    Try the Trinity.

    If we notice an alternative to the standard materialistic view of reality , it is at least like opening a gate to whatever good can come from an Unknown reality. Whether by science or religion, we are then in a better position to open the gate and harvest unexpectedly good fruit
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    Try the Trinity.

    Perhaps the most interesting use of that particular analogy is to note a certain degree of convergence of religious and scientific thought. To bolster cooperation. Whether the Bible has analogies for scientific knowledge our science has analogies for Biblical knowledge perhaps matters less than...
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    Try the Trinity.

    Like that multiple anointed ones line of thought. Highly “spiritual?” Studying a book about the Bible book Romans. I think Paul could have benefited greatly from the concept of “spirituality” when trying to explain his theology and to try to reconcile it with earlier Jewish thought
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    Try the Trinity.

    Wow! I hadn’t read your own above speculations when I made my last speculative comment, but our thoughts seem fairly closely aligned !
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    Try the Trinity.

    Kinda fits with my Super Quanta idea. Body of light (like a packet of energy?) And its ability to act like a particle (body) or like a wave (spirit) . In The Undivided Universe, David Bohm and Basil Hiley think there is evidence of layered overall reality: regular (can’t recall what they...
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