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The tao that can be described is not the Eternal Tao. Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.

:) I think that's the perfect sentiment to close this thread with. Thanks.

I'm afraid you'd consider it a waste of time.

I repent in dust and ashes.

I think you are right. We haven't even been able to start a conversation about whether we can start a conversation. QED indeed.:)

Here are a few articles on this new research: Love Promotes Health Meditation and the Brain Object-referral/Self-referral continuum of self-awareness There are many, many more. I have more than a passing interest in the science of cognition and the consciousness of self because of my son's...

Paladin: There may very well be something like that going on. That's something I think is worth exploring. Can we investigate that possibility by looking at how we distinguish the truth from not the truth? I'm certainly open to the idea that my proposal isn't the most effective way to...

I am unworthy. How can I reply to you? I put my hand over my mouth. I spoke once, but I have no answer - twice, but I will say no more.

I don't have a point. I do have a question. What is your preferred English translation of the Bible? Let's continue the process of discovering the truth together, instead of preaching at each other, which - let's face it - is likely to be a waste of both my time and yours. :D:cool:;);):D

Sorry, your last question seemed rather hostile to this whole discussion. Since I'd just written a post about "love" as a word, the next thing to do was a demonstration. I apologize if yo were offended. Let's step back for a second. You think that talking about a definition of a word...

Let's get back to our project. Perhaps we'll find out the answers to these excellent questions. :)

Cool. I think I've stumbled across the Australian Bill Clinton. :D Please provide the common name of your preferred Enlish translation of the Bible so you can continue helping me know the truth.

My question is "Do you know that Jesus Christ became incarnate from the Virgin Mary?" It's taken almost verbatim from the English translation of the Nicene Creed as used by Lutherans and Episcopaleans.

I think that's a very pertinent question. Do we start with "what is the truth?" and then justify our answers? or do we begin with "how might we know the truth" and go where it may lead us? I opt for the latter because I think it will result in a more productive dialogue. I could be wrong...

That wasn't my question though.

Can you elaborate on this, please? I don't know about "ironic," but it is interesting. Irony is how the Church came to view Tertullian despite the fact that his trinitas ultimately became a central defining characteristic of "orthodoxy" 120 years later. You may have misunderstood the...

I agree. I am endlessly fascinated with language and symbols and how we use them. So it is something I want to open a dialogue about and I am very pleased that there are so many people on this forum with well-considered ideas and great questions that we can all reason together about. That...

I don't think so, because, despite the fact that we can listen carefully to one another and find common ground, we infrequently do. And "deep" symbols will continue to have tremendous value in many circumstances. Among the people in this particular forum, we can be confident that we can...

I agree. It's another myth to explain why Lao Tzu would bother to take the time to explain the unexplainable. The first sentence is that the truth can't be put into words. And in saying even that, he is expressing something in words. The larger point is that we are (it is undeniable) having...

Why didn't Lao Tzu hand the guard a blank page and go on his way?