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  1. Abogado del Diablo

    what is the gospel?

    Polycarp and Irenaeus were around in the Second Century (Irenaeus's surviving works date mainly from the 180s CE). The idea that the leaders of the Reformation were breaking with Ireneaus and Polycarp is rather fantastical. One need only read Irenaeus and see how many of Martin Luther's 95...
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    Progressive Christianity

    Yeah . . . I have my good days and I have my bad days.
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    Is it possible to have a dialogue about "the Truth"

    It's impossible to do otherwise on this forum though. Because of the "Walled Garden" approach, discussing proclamations of faith with ideas from the realm of comparative religion and philosophy would result in censure as well. As you'll note, I originally posted this in Christian forum (I left...
  4. Abogado del Diablo

    Progressive Christianity

    This a great post, wil. The way you describe your experience sounds familiar to me. Is "ourcellves" a pun or a typo?
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    Would a Gnostic be welcome?

    *your mileage may vary. Thomas, Here's an exercise for you to consider. Try to step outside yourself for a moment and consider that everyone who holds to a certain set of "beliefs" about "man and [insert name of deity or impersonal force or essence, etc. here]" does so with the personal...
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    Would a Gnostic be welcome?

    No, Thomas, the problem is you don't seem interested in trying to understand it, and on that basis you belittle and ridicule it. Says you. Incorrect. As I've told you repeatedly, "beliefs" don't have anything to do with it. By what measure do we judge a "belief" as "valid"? Which groups...
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    Is it possible to have a dialogue about "the Truth"

    That's an interesting idea - especially given Paladin's new topic on "rhetoric" in the Philosophy forum. Its one that probably deserves its own thread. Being a legal practitioner, I've observed there's an interesting dichotomy in the profession between people who think the law serves such a...
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    Jokes, jokes, and more jokes ...

    YO-ELEVEN-11: If you don't mind my asking, where did you learn that particular phrase (the bolded one)?
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    rescuing rhetoric

    In my opinion, the real goal of a good education ought to be to develop one's fundamental academic skills rather than simply acquire knowledge. Those skills are: critical thinking, research, writing and written and oral persuasion (in that order). If you build a foundation in those things...
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    Is it possible to have a dialogue about "the Truth"

    You're on a similar page with me, I think. These are the sorts of issues I want to hear people's ideas about: (1) what do we mean when we say something is "the Truth"? (2) how do we determine the content of "the Truth"? (3) can we dialogue and explore "the Truth" together? (I like the way you...
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    Is it possible to have a dialogue about "the Truth"

    I split this off from a thread in the Christianity forum. Setting aside for the moment whether the truth is "malleable," what are the means by which we might access "the truth"? In other words, by what measure do we determine "the truth" from "not the truth"? What do you think of that...
  12. Abogado del Diablo

    Fundamentalist Christianity

    Kenod, I wrote something here, but decided this forum wasn't the right place for it. If you (or anyone else following this discussion) is interested, I've posted some ideas and questions stimulated by your last post into the "comparative studies" forum as a new topic.
  13. Abogado del Diablo

    When will the meek inherit the earth? Whenever they want to.

    I don't mean to distract, but this reminds me of a story from law school. As an "extra credit" question, my Real Property professor offered the following joke: God's will leaves the Earth to Jesus for 1000 years, remainder estate to the Meek. Nietzsche announces God's death in 1882. Will the...
  14. Abogado del Diablo

    what is the gospel?

    I guess it's true. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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    Fundamentalist Christianity

    What do you perceive as the "two extremes"?
  16. Abogado del Diablo

    what is the gospel?

    There were many of them.
  17. Abogado del Diablo

    Fundamentalist Christianity

    Yeah . . . it's weird huh? Is there some evidence that political movements calling themselves "liberal" have started using the methods of fundamentalism?
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    Fundamentalist Christianity

    I suppose you could define it that way. Protestants (Anglicans excluded), of course, take the position that the "faith" wandered away from its origins with the Catholic Church by the time of the Reformation and sought to purge those doctrines and particularly those practices the protesters...
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    what is the gospel?

    Here's my view . . . The Law of God is written on the hearts of people, and the sheep know the Shepherd's voice. So we look into our own "heart" and the Gospel will be revealed to us. Then the real challenge begins: we must be carefully and constantly listening for the Shepard's voice, and...
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