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The people ordered the guardians to protect the people in the cave ? Or did the guardians have the innate nature to return to the cave to help the people ? What is the Eastern European view of this ? Do Russians have both eastern and western views of philosophy ? What about the schism ?

A powerful analogy indeed. And those opinions are.... ?

Hello there Native, you are clearly a very happy lady. Nice to meet you {: 0 ). Btw are you a fan of Empedocles ?

As the very experienced philosopher which you are, Snoopy, the cave obviously seems very simplistic to you. However, I encourage you to view philosophy as a study built on first principles. In this sense, we must re-establish these principles before we begin our journey. Think of it as...

Good points, Dream. To answer these questions, and the others, we need to begin with a review of the cave. I find this passage quite powerful. It is not easily understood. What does Plato mean by “guardians’ , this is an important notion. Why would guardians have the motivation to return to the...

Hi Rodger, I was guessing you are a follower of Isaac Newton is because he was a determinist. Of course, he lived from 1643 - 1727 so some of his ideas might a be a little bit "old fashioned". On the other hand, Werner Heisenberg (1901- 1976) proved that strict determinism is not possible...

Hi Rodger, if I understand your deterministic ideas they are very much in agreement with those of Sir Isaac Newton, would you say that he is one of the sources of your inspiration ? Thanks, Bert

Hi Rodger, if I understand your hypothesis, you are saying that the universe is fully deterministic ? In other words any action can have one and only one reaction. Is that your point ? -Bert

Looks interesting, here is one of the articles I will read: Pyrrhonism: How the Ancient Greeks Reinvented Buddhism. By Adrian Kuzminski. Reviewed by Kristian Urstad [abstract] [pdf]

Both, or either, or neither !! You are the captain of your philosophical journey. I am just a simple deck hand , {: )

Wonderful, you will be one of our opinion leaders. Please give some thought to the ideas behind guardians, the cave and Parmenides. Ok, we will do him later, lol.

Let's begin our journey: There is much to understand here. Let's not try to take it in all at once. Let's step back and understand the larger picture. Look at how these ideas transcend time and thought. From Plato to the Christian era. The story of the cave. The guardian. Can man move from...

This post represents a very high level of spiritual and religious understanding. Knowledge is born at the interface between true reality and a vision for understanding. Much knowledge these days can only be achieved through the use of very sophisticated instrumentation. Other knowledge...

Sure, Russia is west of China, right, lol. Lets give it a shot !!

Channeling ? lol. I am just here to talk about the history of western philosophy. Oh, thanks, nice to meet you. Well, I think I better stick with philosophy for the time being. Politics can get into hot water. And religion, well that can mean real trouble, lol.

I haven't tried that, but I like the idea. Right, I thought maybe we could discuss philosophy in the language of the ancient Greeks.......... Να έχετε μια καλή μέρα! Oh, thanks for the welcome !! We philosophers don't like to talk politics, lol. Or Linus van Pelt.

No problem, most of us philosophers spend our free time playing rock, paper, scissors : ) Thanks for the welcome.

Sounds like a quote from Plato : )

Coberst, you appear to be the local philosopher here. Who are your favorite philosophers ? I like that operational definition.