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    What's meant by the Tower of Babel?

    Incredible. The Bible is simply making up a story to explain the different languages. The tower of Babel is one story. In the chapter right before Babel, YHWH had divided Noah's sons according to their tongues. But now all the tongues were the same again. Hmmm... If one goes back to the start...
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    The Nephilim Race

    Yes the same Robert Graves. Hebrew Myths is a hard copy to obtain,it is long out of print, although some of it has been reproduced on line in bulk.
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    The Nephilim Race

    How dare you demand references! You sure won't make many friends with this crowd. In my research about the Hebrew cosmic myth origin of the OT stories I have discovered (Hebrew Myths- Robert Graves/ Raphael Patai) the Hebrews equated Nimrod to fool and to Orion (the great hunter)> the...
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    Genesis 3:3-4

    I am not a crasher. The rules for the thread claim discussion must be within the confines of religious belief. It does not exclude people who believe otherwise, just non-religious posting. The Jews did not look for a messiah for salvation. The messiah was to lead them against an overthrow of...
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    Genesis 3:3-4

    The words "original sin" does no appear in the Bible. In fact the word "original" is not in the Bible (There is nothing original in the Bible.) The idea of original sin most likely came along after developed by Pythagoras and was adopted to the story. Rabbis have commented the "sin" was actually...
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    Need help w/Col. James Churchward

    I do not know when he lived, but during the 19th century, especially the last half and early part of the 20th century numerous books on religion and ancient civilizations appeared. They were very popular and were made up. Kessinger Publishers has reprinted many of these books. I find them...
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    Sin of masturbation?

    The sin of Onan as it is sometimes called. I have my own theory about it. The ancients believed points of lights in the sky represented souls. Comets and meteors were likewise considered souls. A meteor shower was souls coming to earth to occupy a body. When I mapped out the OT as a cosmic...
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    Atlantis

    The legend for Atlantis is purely and solely based on the destruction of Thera. Years of embellishment to the story has altered it slighty. Plato simply wrote down what he was told about Atlantis. He had no first hand knowledge, nor did those who gave him the story. Why would one imagine a story...
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    Atlantis

    You two guys are both smoking rope. There was no Atlantis in the Atlantic or Mu in the Pacific.
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    Atlantis

    Most ancient people who worshipped one god were not strictly "monotheists." While they may have paid tribute to only one god, they did believe other gods existed. This includes the Hebrews, especially before the captivity period.
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    Universal details in all theist orders

    There really isn't one. There is no universal myth so to speak. One can find similarities between distant religions, but when one tries to incorporate all ancient religions it is impossible. I have heard this one "Belief in God, if there is one." I personnally contend all ancient religions...
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    Where was Eden, and does it matter?

    We are really reaching on this one, but I'll give you points for originallity.
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    Where was Eden, and does it matter?

    Always fighting poorly thought out theories with facts. Not very Christian of you. Cosmically the four rivers most likely represented the Milky Way at the four cardinal points.
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    Name of Queen

    Exactly. In fact the real evidence shows Judaism evolved out of the old canaanite religion. There are no sudden changes in language and culture of the Canaanites that one would expect had there been a real Exodus out of Egypt. I am convinced the story in the OT is based upon at least 3 times...
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    Where was Eden, and does it matter?

    I got the idea from Creationist who claimed the flood formed the Grand Canyon and created mountains. Either is did or it didn't. You can't have it both ways.
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    Name of Queen

    In A III 39 Josephus claims Moses warred with the Amalekites. Not likely they would be the original Hebrews if we believe Josephus. Manetho relates a Rameside expulsion which the Bible appears to have adopted for the Exodus. http://www.bibleorigins.net/ExodusJosephusVSManetho.html Josephus...
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    Where was Eden, and does it matter?

    The 4 rivers are anchronistic. They would not be part of the original text. How could there had been those 4 rivers around Eden followed by a world wide flood which destroyed the earth's topography? Or was there no flood which covered mountains and moved boulders?
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    Name of Queen

    By nearly any account the event would have been 1000 years old when Josephus wrote about it. At that point it becomes hear-say, myth, legend, questionable data. Secular historian??? He was Jewish. Who was secular 2000 years ago? There is much in Josephus that is inaccurate and down right...
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