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Well, I guess this is just a fundamental difference in beliefs, because in my faith...just because someone dies doesn't mean they are really gone, they don't stop praying and looking after you after death. I certainly hope that one day you find the right one. Typical Old Testament...

It isn't a point of ignoring, it's the point that Jesus is part of God, not seperate. So we do serve God and only God. Yeah, I agree with you MW, I don't see it as hide and seek either... but just as mankind screwing up, going farther away from him, and then repenting and getting close again...

First of all, God does not have the sins we have. We are jealous, we are messed up, God is perfect. And God is not like my husband, I am not a nun. God is so beyond that title. God wouldn't deny us help, God sends angels to help us, so I'm not quite sure about where you get the idea that he...

I read what the verses you posted, but I fail to see how that had anything to do with praying to the saints or painting it in a negative light. So....I don't know what to tell you. But let me ask you something, at church (I'm assuming you go but correct me if I'm mistaken), people say " I'll...

Re: Jehovah witnesses. Well, most of us have moved on from that mindset " it's pagan, get it away " because it's just not. I don't personally connect Christmas, the act of rejoicing in the birth of Jesus Christ, with Paganism. Not in the slightest, and apparently the early Fathers of the...

Re: Jehovah witnesses. Origen was sticking to the right way? It was heresy, what he was preaching. Like universal salvation, just one of his many principles that were condemned because they had no basis in the Bible at all.

Prayer is much more than I think you are giving it credit. As Neemai quoted, prayer is not only worship to a diety, but can be requesting guidance from a spirit. When I pray to the Theotokos, I am not worshipping her, I am asking her to pray to God on my behalf, although I do show her great...

You are kinda iffy on prayers to Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ is still part of God, there is nothing wrong with that. It's not like Jesus would insert his own name in a prayer to God the Father.

It's kind of offensive to put it " hey, you guys just pray to the dead". Like we can do that to just anyone, like someone off the street. But from a christian perspective, though their body may be dead, their souls are not. We will live eternally with salvation in one way or another. We pray...

Yes, that's the point I was trying to get across (very inarticulately). We know these people aren't God, we aren't worshipping them, we show respect to them and pray for their help.

My church doesn't recognize the Pope, but I believe John Paul II was a very righteous person. Although, I have my doubts how Benedict can live up to his memory. He just seems to be undoing all the great things that John Paul II worked so hard for so far.

Re: Jehovah witnesses. It doesn't help that Origen, a prominent early theologian of the time, really supported the idea of not celebrating Christmas, but then again, he had 15 anathemas put against him and was referred to as a heretic so... -shrug-

I see how you came to that conclusion, but it wasn't meant to seperate Jesus from God...

It's more like meer, but yeah, I guess it can be pronounced the same as " mir ". Funny, I hadn't noticed until you pointed it out.

Because asking someone or something to pray for you isn't worshipping him/her/it.

As much as I totally disagree with your point of view, we'll just have to agree to disagree and let God figure out the rest, right.

Re: Jehovah witnesses. Too bad the faith isn't based on the Encyclopedia or I'd be in real trouble.

Re: Jehovah witnesses. It still freaks me out, even with every explanation JWs seem to come up with. While we should celebrate the life, death, and resurrection of Christ everyday, there is absolutely no reason that we shouldn't celebrate Christmas, or our birthdays, or Pascha (especially)...

Hope that helps.

I know you asked for all three, but the truth is that I can only comment on Christianity, and that from an orthodox perspective. so, here we go. 1. Persons: Jesus Christ (number one), the Apostles, the Saints, the Angels, the Virgin Mary, 9 Patriarchs, ( Constantinople, Africa, Antioch & the...