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    Christianity Outside the Box

    Good point. However, that only applies to reasoning, observation, and other empirical aspects. One cannot know a Mystery if they are on the outside of it. Knowing is to be on the outside of the Mystery because knowing entails a knower and the known. This phenomenal approach is doomed to failure...
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    Christianity Outside the Box

    Unfortunately, Christianity stopped being Christianity when those 300+ bishops meet at the First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD and sold out to Constantine by agreeing to take power away from every Christian by rejecting Arianism in return for some personal power granted to them by Constantine. It...
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    The Ego and "Seeing Things as they are"

    As in the Christian idea of spiritual rebirth. I think all religions have the idea of dying to the mundane in order to know the Divine. This idea is just phrased differently in different religions/spiritual paths and it is too bad that people's individuated egos force them to emphasize supposed...
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    The Ego and "Seeing Things as they are"

    All you are doing is locking yourself into a phenomenal view of reality which is a false view. The 'reality' of sense impression is an illusion and an addiction. It is the home of separation, estrangement, fear and despair. You have to find and use other, much more subtle means, ie, learning to...
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    The Ego and "Seeing Things as they are"

    Sufism and Baha'i have the seven valleys. Christians have the seven stages of prayer as exemplified by St Teresa of Avila's Interior Castle. Alchemists have the seven stages of transformation. Judaism has the Kabbalah. Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism know all of these as the seven chakras. Those at...
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    The Ego and "Seeing Things as they are"

    'Ego expansion' was a linguistic device to get people to think outside their box. Rather that considering themselves as individuated egos, the idea of spiritual transformation is know oneself as God or, if you don't like that term, to know oneself as One without another. This is the idea behind...
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    Reconcling Christianity and Islam ?

    Those who are mired in hatred and fear as he is have no other choice but to repeat their hatred and fear. It is their hell.
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    Reconcling Christianity and Islam ?

    Jesus says that each of us is God incarnate. Sufism and Baha'i agree. Reconciliation accomplished. That was easy. Next non-issue?
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    absolute truth

    This thread doesn't seem to going despite your excellent question, so I will interject that there is relative truth and Absolute Truth. Relative truth is what one 'sees' using a consciousness that is fixed in duality. Those truths are all subject to change. Absolute Truth is God...
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    Who understands what the goal of the religion of Judasim is?

    First, "Israel" is not a nation. It is an occupation seeking legitimacy. Second, "Israel" is not even real estate. It is a metaphor for one of the higher states of God Consciousness but one that still has traces of dualism in it. Third, the Zionist 'Israel' was founded on corruption, murder...
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    Who understands what the goal of the religion of Judasim is?

    The 'problem' is the invasion and occupation by Jews of someone else's lands, water and assets. The solution is to get rid of the Jews from Palestine and make them atone for the suffering they have caused. What could be clearer? Your 'workable solution' seems to consist of somehow allowing the...
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    Who understands what the goal of the religion of Judasim is?

    So you do not condemn the Jewish invasion of someone else's land, nor the the atrocities by Jews that accompanied that invasion. Nor are you able to move beyond a linear and literal (and self-justifying) interpretation of the Torah despite the many references through the Bible that literalism...
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    Who understands what the goal of the religion of Judasim is?

    After the Jews had murdered, maimed or deported hundreds of thousands of Palestinians, the rightful inhabitants and owner of Palestine. In addition, Two wrongs do not make a right. The U.N. and the Jews do not have the right to give away/take someone else's land and assets. As you brought up...
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    The Ego and "Seeing Things as they are"

    It is too bad that this thread didn't go anywhere. The problem with your Venn diagrams is that they both represent the view of the ego and neither represents the view of the non-ego reality. The non-individuated ego's awareness of the reality of Brahman is beyond time and space and therefore...
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    Who understands what the goal of the religion of Judasim is?

    The original attack was that of Zionists on the residents of Palestine. There are not many sides, many issues to the Palestinian invasion by Jews. There is only their greed for land. Surely you are aware that as early as 1898, the Zionists were plotting to take over a territory. The Zionists at...
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    Who understands what the goal of the religion of Judasim is?

    Does this mean that you condemn the zionist occupation of Palestine and its gross mistreatment of the Palestinians, the rightful owners of that land? Does this mean that you acknowledge that a literal interpretation of "Zion", "Israel", and "the promised land" as Middle East real estate is in...
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    Who understands what the goal of the religion of Judasim is?

    The only defending that was done was by the British attempting to stop the Zionist invasion and by the resident Palestinians fighting for their lives against the invading Jews. And yes, the invading Jews did exactly start slaughtering. Oh, yes, your referral to my being a new member is a...
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    What is soul? If it is produced from food then, when food stops soul is destroyed?

    Re: What is soul? If it is produced from food then, when food stops soul is destroyed Your apology is accepted.
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    Who understands what the goal of the religion of Judasim is?

    Jews are not so closely related to the Palestinians that they were not prepared to murder, maim and exile hundreds of thousands of Palestinians (and still do) in order to acquire their land and assets. Regardless of what the political status of Palestine was at the end of WWII, it was not a...
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    Who understands what the goal of the religion of Judasim is?

    You mean as opposed to your Agenda of justifying the continuing Jewish atrocities in Palestine and the retention of land that doesn't belong to the Jews there. That makes you not only condoning war crimes but more significantly aiding and abetting them.
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