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    Abiogenesis

    Hello Tao Equus Your quote: No I dont have any fossil evidence to support non-celular life. As I pointed out on an earlier post as its the Cell wall that gets preserved in these earliest fossils you can deduce that anything without one would not. However there is a highly diverse and...
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    Abiogenesis

    Hello Bob Your quote: E99, I was going to try replying to your points (are you writing your own material, or cribbing from a website? If the latter, you really do need to credit the author), but there is a more fundamental problem. You are not investigating the riddle with any intention of...
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    Abiogenesis

    Hello Tao Equus: Thankyou for your reply. Your quote: Again you keep asserting the first life must have been a kind of single celled creature. My understanding is that few evolutionary biologists share that view. The current evidential first life organism is a single cell bacteria...
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    Abiogenesis

    More Bob... My quote: If cells are to self replicate, survive and progress, they need proteins made up from the 20 sub unit amino acids, and a mass of other functioning biochemicals. There is a bare minimum requirement. Your quotes: No they don't. For the membrane to split, no proteins at...
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    Abiogenesis

    Hello Bob I've transferred our debate about abiogenesis from the evolution statistics discussion to this one, as it is more appropriate here. Various points raised contesting random abiogenesis and RNA as the first formation of life is in line with this discussion. My quote: It has to be...
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    Creation or Evolution: The Statistics!!!

    Hi Tao equus Late reply..... Your quote: As I pointed out in my last post this one attempt per second thing is absolute utter nonsense. These reactions were taking place similtaneously, ie there were many many millions, if not billions and possibly trillions of reactions per second. NOT ONE...
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    Creation or Evolution: The Statistics!!!

    Hi Bob YOUR QUOTE: Your calculations also assume that every single one of the 400 (or however many) proteins has to be exactly thus and so, with no possible variations anywhere in any of the sequences. Of course, there is always a wide variety of possible variations which would do just as well...
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    Creation or Evolution: The Statistics!!!

    Tao Equus YOUR QUOTE: Again here you make a lot of noise but say nothing. A type of common meteorite called a carbonaceous chondrite contains all 8 of the left handed amino acids life requires and uses for protien production. The meteorites do not have to be zapped or played with in any way...
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    Creation or Evolution: The Statistics!!!

    Hi Tao Equus Thankyou for your replies. The Gaia thread is interesting, and go's a long way to illustrating your beliefs, but here you still attempt to pummel away at the creationists, and a lot of your prior threads on this discussion have tried to denigrate them. Your knowledge on the...
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    Creation or Evolution: The Statistics!!!

    Tao Equus Your quote: There is nothing uncontrolled or purposeless about evolutionary thought on life. Indeed there are a number of factors or conditions that have to be met in order for life to exist and they believed that life started out simple but is now extremely complex. You say...
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    The Gap after the Big Bang (and others)

    Agree with you, and taking it a step further, God had no point of intervention, but it seems that he was in control of the situation from the start of the creation and prior to creation of our physical laws. This can be seen by the intricately finely tuned aspects of atomic structure. The power...
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    The Greeks wrote the bible

    BobX Your quote: This is an "urban legend", invented in the 19th century. There are no earlier references to any gate being called a "needle's eye". An alternate explanation of "camel through the needle's eye" is that there was a mistranslation into Greek from a Semitic original (whether...
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    The Greeks wrote the bible

    Juantoo3 You are quite right...The Greeks did not write the NT... It was written by the Greek speaking Jews. I look back at my first answer and wonder how on earth I put "The Greeks wrote the NT in koine Greek". Greek was a common language at the time of Christ. There also would have been...
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    The Greeks wrote the bible

    Wil...Your Quote: "Like the last words of Jesus, not why have you forsaken me, but 'is this what you saved me for". Where did you get that translation from ? I wouldn't believe those bias anti-biblical websites. They give half baked truths.....Hard to stomach, like half baked bread...
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    The Greeks wrote the bible

    Universalism. Everyone will ultimatelty be saved ? This is not what the bible teaches. What has been misinterpreted ? Apart from deviating from the way God works, the idea about the so called scriptural hell is wrong. It is a mistranslation, more like a deliberate deviation from the scriptural...
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    Evolutıon????

    Hi Tectrikz...YOUR QUOTE: Abiogenesis is not impossible just very very very low probability of happening but in the vastness of space who knows it may of happened only once and here on earth. Its the same as in physics, push on the wall in your room for a few billion years and you have a...
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    A Question for Jehovah's Whitnesses

    Hi AT5 1) Is it true that Jehovah's Whitnesses refuse medical treatment? I think that you may have heard this through 'Chinese whispers'. Possibly because of one medical procedure that we definately refuse, which is blood transfusions. This is in line with abstaining from, and avoiding the...
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    Evolutıon????

    You can build a building without a ground floor, but you can't build it without a foundation, expecting it to face the elements and to last. Biological evolution has an imperceptible foundation. Its not strictly evolution, but intrinsically linked with it, chemical evolution, the necessary...
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    the Bible from a Jehovah's Witness perspective

    Hi Blaznfattyz: This doesn't seem to be the thread in which to discuss the more in depth translations of the scriptures from our JW perspective. I've therefore put up a brief answer to all of the trinitarian and Jesus/Michael the angel scriptures that you quoted. If you wish to discuss these in...
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    the Bible from a Jehovah's Witness perspective

    Hi Blaznfattyz....... Your QUOTE: a messianic jewish scriptural view: "Hebrew name YHWH "Yod-Hey-Vav-Hey" in the Jewish Scriptures. Many have guessed, with saying it is Jehovah or Yaweh, but it is said by the Jewish people traditionally and historically, that it is unpronounceable. In fact it...
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