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  1. OupaPiet

    Religious books and a description of the Origins of the Universe according to science?

    Thanks for your input. And I can see that you read a lot and are curious about the questions of origins. And I think what I am going to tell you will enhance your thinking to other dimensions. Just a small note, once I gave you my story, I will also give you my observation on the age of LIFE on...
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    And John knew Jesus. Dont forget that. Anyhow, coming back to the Quran as a revelation in stages, and it did not exist before Muhammad. 7: 106. And We have divided the Quran that you might recite it to the people at intervals. We send down descending. It is clear that here it says that Allah...
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    Religious books and a description of the Origins of the Universe according to science?

    A few years ago, I ventured into the claim that the Quran gave a detailed description on how Allah created the Universe. Or let me elaborate a bit more. An Islamic Scholar, Zakir Naik participated in a debate with Dr. William Campbell at the University of Chicago with the theme: 'the Bible, the...
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    Now why dont you know the religion of Islam. In Paradise with Allah is the Master slab where the Quran is chiseled out. And did Allah not say that He revealed this Quran to Muhammad as an answer to everything? Does Islam and the Quran not say that the Quran was not created? If you say Allah...
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    Try the Trinity.

    I just saw the beginning, and thought I will come back to it at a later stage. TNX for reminding me.
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    Thank you for the agreement that God can not die. So, you agree that the Word / Logos / Mind of God is immortal. Then you should agree that the concept of the Trinity makes sense that the Human Body where the Word "Tabernacled" dwelled in here on earth in the human body, could die! But not the...
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    OK, if we ignore everything the Bible say about the Father, Word and Holy Spirit, you might have a point. But the carnal fact is that you are not the one that have any right to dictate to what God can and can not be. In such a case, you are creating your own god, and that is pure idolatory.
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    I always understood that the Brain and Mind are 2 different 'things'. I just never realized how. due to the fact I was always always told by Atheists that the Mind does not exist, but everything is a chemical electrical impulse controlled by physical cells in the brain. And they would check...
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    You do not have to refer to God as anything else than your Father. The word Trinity is not in the Bible, yet the description was given by Christians to describe God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Anyone telling you that God is not the Father, Spirit and Word, is dumping the whole OT. Here is a...
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    I think such deep thinking needs a response. You dont have to read it if you dont want to. But from my point of view, you are correct. We can not fathom anything about the spiritual, for we are not in that environmant. However, we can reference to what was recorded in the scriptures we have...
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    So what if we dont have concrete proof that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote the 4 gospels with their own hands? So what if it was written in Greek and not Aramaic? There are many examples in the Bible that the prophets of old had scribes to write and record historical events, Moses had...
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    I never cared at all. This is only an anecdote to people making a claim that Jews dont accept the Trinity. Such a claim is invalid as you see. Show a Jew the real attributes of the Word, The Ruach and the YHWH, and they become a Christian. Nothing more, nothing less.
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    If we reason on what God can be and what He should be, we are making one hell of an error. It is not up to us to tell God what He is, or how He should be revealed. However, It is also just as silly to think that one can make philosophies on God, from our reference point. This is the steps...
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    https://jewinthepew.org/2016/05/04/4-may-1877-death-of-pauli-trinitarian-kabbalist-otdimjh/ I am blessed beyond blessings. Today we have the Old Testament in any language we need to have to read it. We have Jews who converted to Christianity, that do not have any problem with the Trinity, for...
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    OK, then you also missed out that Eloheinu has a singular form! In the OT EL (singular)is used quite a number of times to denote GOD, and elohim is also used as a plural to describe the "gods" of the idolators. Gesenius came up with this argument, but it was Zevi Nasi Hirsch Prinz (aka Rev...
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    The concept of God of the Judean-Christian religion is all about God revealing Himself to Human beings. Speaking to Adam, showing him how He created animals, speaking to Henoch, walking with him, speaking to Noah, visiting Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, revealing Himself to Moses, walking and...
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    good.
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    Here we have an open weapon to stop a participant from fiving a fact. lets test the validity of enforcing this rule with splitting hairs. What If I were to mention that Muhammad was a false prophet and the Quran is not the word of god, but a man made book made up of fables secondhandedly...
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    Perhaps you shoutl obtain Paul Fregosi's "Jihad in the West" and get unbiased Historical facts.
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    Deuteronomy 6:4 SHMO YSRAL YHWH ALEINU YHWH ACHD Hear Israel! YHWH God's of us YHWH unity! Thank you for your quote. Here we have evidence of the Trinity. YHWH our God (Plural) is a Unity. Greetings.
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