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    Baptism

    dear greymare: I find it so refreshing that you questioned things about their teachings. Also that it WAS your beliefs. You do know the only reason you questions thing was that God lead you to those questions. That It was and is God who directs your beliefs and choices you make. So many here and...
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    If we had not fallen ?

    You are right Thomas. No parent (most) would not want their child to suffer. But many times a child must suffer in order to get to the outcome they are trying to get to. here is a perfect example. A child fall down a cracks a tooth. The only way to get this fix is to bring her to a dentist...
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    Baptism

    Helol greymare, I don't know what your beliefs are. I do know however that you do not believe in a purgatory. Do you believe in hell beng a place where God will send the nonbelievers to where they will be tortured and burned and yet not died but to live through this forever and ever???
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    The 'Hand of the Beast'

    Yes Bishadi, Not only in the well ,but drowning as well. But not from going too deep. i am drowning because of all the BS that is call Christian theology. I hope that was not too harsh. The beast: That's me and you. The beast is man, The beast is humanity. The beast sits in the temple of...
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    Bad translations, Misinterpations add ons. What do we really know??

    Thomas I know these fact are tue Jesus never said forgive them Father for they know not what they do. It never Happen. As far as my teacher. well I will tell you where this info. came from. It comes from The Great professor C. Tischendorf's notes on the readings of the two of the oldest greek...
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    Bad translations, Misinterpations add ons. What do we really know??

    Just so you know Thomas I think real hard and i am sure about my facts before I tell others here. For your information Thomas Luke 23:34 was added to the text at a latter date. This is a fact. In my B
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    The 'Hand of the Beast'

    It would take me along time and I would have to dive deep into the well to bring this one to light. Who and what is the Beast. And why do we care? I'll pass for now. maby later.
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    The Fall happened in two stages

    Thomas you have some very good replys to my questions and I wish I could get to responed tonight, but since I look up most passages in scripture withinn the bible It takes me a long time to ansewer and then I want to make sure I have the correct versus down in order that I may add something...
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    Bad translations, Misinterpations add ons. What do we really know??

    Ok thanks for the explanation: I got it and yes I agree.
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    The 'Hand of the Beast'

    Hello TheKahn, are we,, you speaking of the beast of revelations?? If so the ansewer is simple enough. But you wouldn't believe me if I told you who and what the Beast of revelation is. So I will hold my tounge for now.
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    The Fall happened in two stages

    Man , Thomas< How many times must I say this? It is so very simple to understand. What's up?? God IS NOT EVIL. I never said it was so either. God did create evil. But He is not evil. I formed the light and created darkness, I make peace and created calamity I The Lord do all these things. Lets...
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    The Fall happened in two stages

    Ok let's take this one at a time. You do not believe that God is cruel, vindictive or spiteful. Cruel. If you believe in hell where God will barbaque man, billions of men women and children because they was not born again then that god is cruel. vengence is MINE sayith the LORD. I think that...
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    a very hot topic. A loaded question

    I don't know what all that means selfseerving modern manufactured pseudo religions. I do hawever agree with your saying I do not hate such folks "But i an free to think the misguided. Great word Misguided.
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    The Fall happened in two stages

    thanks Thomas for your insite. I love our little chats. This is good for the soul. It is good to have discussions. This is a good way to see each others side and maby learn sonething from it. Even though we disagree on most things there is still a place to understand between us.
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    The Fall happened in two stages

    Question: Thomas you said that it;s a mess entirely of our own making. No not entirely of our own making. and that it's an offence against God. No, No, No. Thomas, do you believe that God is all knowing. That God knows the (end) from the (beginning)? do you believe that God has foreknowledge...
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    If we had not fallen ?

    There is so much I can say and back it up with God's own words but I know it is fallen on deaf ears. This is why I say I will show you (If you want).
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    If we had not fallen ?

    Thomas you say God never willed that man should suffer. Where do you get this from have you ever read any of the old testament?? It is full of suffering and pain and death and destruction by the hand of God Just go and read some of the battles the isrealites fought. You will see where it is...
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    If we had not fallen ?

    I wanted to add one more thing. you said that I blame God. Wrong you are so wrong Blame denotes wrong doing God is never wrong on anything He does. God has a plan and that plan is perfet in everyway. Whatever we do is part of His plan. God is never wrong God is never shocked or suprised at...
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    If we had not fallen ?

    Thomas I can write a long reply showing you scripture that backs up my words but you will never believe them because it is not meant for you to understand. The Lord has not removed the scales from your eyes yet. So I am not even going to try. I will leave you with this scripture and lets see...
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    Satan accuses us before God

    Yes Job. If you read Job very carefully you will see it is not Satan who challenges God about Job infact it is the other eay around. God ask satan "where have you been" satan "to and fro in the earth" God did you notice my servent Job? Right here you see it wasn't satan who spoke of Job first it...
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