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    how faith might work - jesus, krishna and others

    This isn't really the right board for this thread, I would say. It doesn't have anything to do with Christianity really.
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    Questions

    Well, if you hadn't asked me a question, I would have left. That said, I did say I was going to drop it if no one wanted evidence, then you responded to my question about evidence, which indicated to me that you wanted to know more about it. Also, it is Biblical but it is implied, not explicit...
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    Questions

    I like that description, of archetypes. Of course, it could be because I'm a big fan of Jung, but it makes sense in the context of what I was talking about as well. (Reincarnation was a staple belief of the time and there were apparently some stuff written on it by Jewish religious people at the...
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    Questions

    YHVH is God the Father's name, not Jesus', but whatever you want to believe. Also the angel of the Lord is not a valid translation of YHVH, which is supposedly in the original Hebrew version. From a Gnostic viewpoint it makes more sense, but I won't bring that in here seeing as it's heretical...
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    HELL or HECK ?

    On what? We've almost agreed on Gehenna, even though we are at polar opposites on Har Megido. I think I am just not clear enough with my words. I guess it isn't really important and I was getting tired anyway...
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    Questions

    OK, let me see if I can find something in there...though I doubt I will. Does the Bible include the books of Enoch, btw? What does asking a Jewish person have to do with anything? Unless they know absolutely everything about Judaism, I might as well ask the next person I see on the street...
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    if hell was real

    I'm not attributing the Christ as being evil at all, just discussing hypothetical circumstances. I'm not much worried about the unpardonable sin though, not anymore anyway. Quahom, my reasoning was that there is no reason God cannot do what He wants, that's all. You're the one who was using the...
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    HELL or HECK ?

    Scroll down to Judgement and see there it says that some people only stay in Gehenna for a year and that only three types of people never come out. It is a purgatory in the sense that the punishment is not eternal and is equal to the sin that was committed. I read somewhere that it is supposed...
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    Questions

    That's a no, right? I'm not trying to change anyone's mind or anything, just present it as an obscure tidbit related to the topic of the thread (sort of). Thanks Taijaisi, I'll check it out.
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    if hell was real

    A parable is like a fairytale without the fantasy elements. Like the parable of the prodigal son did not literally happen to someone, it was meant to express something else. By being a fabrication, it is technically not the truth, which means it is a lie. I know God can do whatever He wants...
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    Warning

    Re: Warning!! OK, I'm not here to argue or anything, but can someone summarize it or say what it is even about?
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    Questions

    Well, I am under the impression that this stuff is in the Bible (OT, of course), but it is hard to catch in the English versions. So I assume I should just drop it, i.e. no one needs any evidence. Taijasi, what book is it? Flowergirl, you left out the option of him being born as God from the...
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    Questions

    Yeah, I know, that's whay I said nevermind a ways back, seeing as how it was probably to Jewish to count here. But people still replied, and seeing as how the Old Testament is part of the Bible, it's not totally off topic. I wasn't asking any questions though, I just put that out there.
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    if hell was real

    Jesus is God, Jesus told parables, parables are not true, thus God lied. Anyway, killing and lying are both equally wrong in God's eyes apparently. Isn't He the Way, the Truth, and also the Life? Thus when He kills, he must be contradicting himself, by the samewise logic used in the case of Him...
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    Questions

    Well as you people know, the Messiah is regarded differently in Judaism than in Christianity. So YHVH manifesting as Moses does not carry the same implications as Him incarnating as Jesus. There's also the notion of reincarnation present in the Old Testament I believe, if you look hard enough...
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    if hell was real

    That's what I am trying to say. If God did lie, it would not be a sin, in the same way that when He kills it is not a sin. As for human qualities, I'm not the one who said He is wrathful and jealous and all that...but that's beside the point. Also parables are not strictly true, since they...
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    HELL or HECK ?

    I never said Gehenna referred to a place of eternal torment of the damned, I said it is more like Purgatory in the Jewish tradition. When they say Gehenna they do not mean the actual valley where people were sacrificed, they mean the 1st hell. Like you say, it became the Hebrew picture of Hell...
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    The Jinn

    OK, well it may be called a genie now, but I still doubt it was supposed to be the same creature that a djinn is in Islam. Those things are no more djinni than they are angels. Ah, but it is inconsequential to the discussion at hand...
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    Calling all veggies

    How exactly is sentiene defined in this case? Vegetables have supposedly exhibited some form of pain or fear, so does that count or do they have to be able to communicate their sentience?
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    if hell was real

    Cause I'm making a point about absolute truth. No matter what I believe, and no matter how sincere I believe it, your name isnt Sarah. If you believe hard enough, it might be. Using names for this point is not good though, seeing as how there is relativism to contend with. To you, my name may...
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