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    Gospel inconsistencies

    How do we know Eli (Heli) was Mary's father? Do we have any kind of corroberation on that? Anything in the Bible itself? CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: The Blessed Virgin Mary This may be absolutely historical, I don't know and I have no real way of telling. But the fact that it comes from an...
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    Allowing child molesters in church?

    I'll tell you, I deserve a lot of lashes! And if I had done at eighteen what I did at sixteen and seventeen I'd be considered a child molester. All those underage girls in the backseat of my old man's Buick. Whooo! I wouldn't have anything left flay. My wife of twenty years is a home town...
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    Your Favourite Quote

    "It is easier to live through someone else than to become complete yourself." Betty Friedan
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    Allowing child molesters in church?

    Really? Really, really? You think that people who have sex outside of the confines of marriage deserved to be lashed? That seems pretty barbaric to me. How does one have ownership of their body in that case? It would seem that the group. or the state, or the religion owns one's body and...
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    I've never tried to do this with quotes so I hope it turns out OK. Quote: Originally Posted by Sunny C. I think that when a figure is very imporant, and there are...
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    Allowing child molesters in church?

    I understand what you're saying, but I want to ask you what activities, in your opinion, merit capital punishment? Adultery? Child molestation? Treason? Manslaughter? Theft? Gross negligence that leads to death? Blasphemy? The first, adultery, begs the question of whether a person...
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    Jesus: fiction or non

    I'm not sure what you mean friend. Perhaps I merely defy stereotyping. I would prefer to keep my beliefs a personal matter. I enjoy the conversation, I'm polite, and I'm not grinding an axe. Surely that's enough.
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    Jesus: fiction or non

    Yeah, I understand. Eventually one has to choose what to believe. Everything flows from that. To be clear, I've chosen not to believe in Jesus. I don't find his mythos compelling enough to join your faction. But I enjoy talking about it.
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    I'll tell you what I think, and since I'm no expert and don't really know you can take it for what it's worth. I think that when a figure is very imporant, and there are factions of believers who hold to different foundational stories about that important person, it makes sense that in the...
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    It's really a moot point isn't it? The Gospel writers allow that since Jesus' Pop was the Holy Spirit he was only "supposed" to be the son of Joseph. But both start with Joseph, and then his father, and his father. Neither go to Mary, her father or mother...and so on. The importance of the...
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    Well...? What kind of questions? I certainly don't have the answers but we could explore together if you want. In fact, what I'm most convinced of is that I don't have the answers. But beyond settling the issue, which we won't anyway, it's interesting how different kinds of believers...
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    OK, but did Judas throw the money down in front of the Sanhedrin, or did he buy a piece of land? How many demoniacs were healed? How come there are different geneologies for Jesus? Was Jesus born during the reign of Tiberius or Herod? When exactly did that census take place, anyway...
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    That makes sense since both of those characters are like specters. They both should have died young and left a legend, but here they are getting all stringy haired and old, and playing golf! That's sweet!
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    Vince Furnier, AKA Alice Cooper- preacher's son! Have you seen him lately? He's old as the hills and plays golf!
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    Did that have Only Women Bleed or was that on Billion Dollar Babies?
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    What do you think of it Cyberpi? Is it preeminent to the cannonical gospels?
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    Hey Joshua, do you remember the Led Zeppelin In Through the Out Door album art? There were four different covers with four different perspectives on a brown and white photographed scene. Sunny
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    Ah Thomas, you've piqued my interest with the idea that the hypothetical Q material is pre-matthean. Hmmm...I'm going to have to think about that.
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    I agree. I don't think that the message is damaged in the process of textual analysis. I do think that a lot of detail and color emerges when careful textual and historical analysis are combined. For example, one can see the evolution of the sociological effects of the destruction of the...
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    Gospel inconsistencies

    Hi Pattimax. I'm glad you enjoyed the link. I think it's important to point out that the author is engaged in literary critique in order to demonstrate that Mark precedes Matthew chronologically. He's not trying to destroy anyone's faith, he's engaged in an intellectual analysis of the text...
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