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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    While Life may be good for some, it is certainly not fair for the others. Many in this world experience profound suffering through no fault of their own. Something I do a lot in my spare time is read about, or watch videos about, how bad others have it in various countries of the world. It...
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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    You are focusing on only one part of the complete process. There are various stages. Take this verse you quoted for example... The purpose of the Lake of Fire is to destroy both Soul and Body. That is accomplished by Apollyon/Abaddon, who works for God to perform the 'memory wipe' so to speak...
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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    I believe that all of us here came from the Lake of Fire. So yes, before the conversion he was a Son of Hell as we all are. The goal is to become a Son of God.
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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    Indeed. There are plenty of Gods and Goddesses mentioned in the Bible to choose from. Yes, up to a certain point. My views are similar to Universalists as I believe everyone will be saved in the end. It will just take some longer than others. This verse is a good example... Matthew 21:31...
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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    For reference... "...it is well known that the Romans had their goddess Vesta, whom Velleius Paterculus (l) calls the keeper of the perpetual fires; and there were certain virgins, called the "vestal" virgins, whose business it was to take care that the fire never went out; and is by Virgil (m)...
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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    This one makes 99% of Christians completely short circuit. We begin with this verse... 1 Corinthians 15:36 "Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die" The teaching is clear and concise. Only something that is *physically dead* can be quickened, i.e., resurrected from...
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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    Where did Jesus descend to in this verse? Ephesians 4:9 "Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?"
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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    Here are some more "that is not literal because I say so!" verses... John 17:12 "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled." 2 Thessalonians 2:3...
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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    I am non-denominational. I mainly use the KJV. From what I am gathering from some of the responses so far is that the verses I quoted are 'not literal', or they are 'figures of speech', or they are 'just poetry', or they are 'insults of the time' etc. As soon as I hear anything like that, I do...
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    Curiosity questions

    I used to be Catholic, but not anymore. I am non-denominational. When I started reading the Bible many decades ago, I immediately noticed themes of reincarnation interwoven throughout. I would always shrug them off because I was 'told' that reincarnation was not Biblical. One day I had enough...
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    Greetings

    Perhaps 'upgrade' is a more appropriate word. Personally, I do not like feeling pain and getting weaker as my body grows older. I am looking forward to something better.
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    Greetings

    Sounds good. Here is the thread... https://www.interfaith.org/community/threads/20589/ :)
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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    Here is another reference... The Works of Thomas Traherne: Inducements to retirednes ; A sober view of Dr Twisses, his considerations ; Seeds of eternity, or, The nature of the soul ; The kingdom of God
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    The Lake of Fire (Tophet/Gehenna) is the Moment of Conception

    Most Christians believe that the Lake of Fire is the 'end of the story' when it comes to the ultimate fate of the Unsaved. Moreover, these poor unfortunate Souls are said to either 'burn for infinity' or they are 'annihilated'. Neither are true according to the Bible. When all of the evidence...
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    Greetings

    Hi Daughters of Frya. I consider myself a Fundamental Christian and I would like to share some thoughts about Mother Earth and how she relates to the Bible. First of all, Mother Earth is called Mystery Babylon in the Bible. And yes, many Christians view Mystery Babylon in a negative light. This...
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    Curiosity questions

    As a Christian that believes in reincarnation, I believe that much of our fate is predetermined. The amount of 'predestination' we face is a direct result of the sins of our previous lives. Judgment Day is when our crimes are tallied up and punishments doled out... i.e., 'we reap what we...
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    The Christian Godhead (Trinity) is What Science Calls the Atom

    That is the riddle that I believe is hidden in the verse. You figured it out, which is really cool. :cool: In the case of Jesus, there is the word 'fullness'. It may be that Jesus had something 'extra' within his atoms.
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    The Christian Godhead (Trinity) is What Science Calls the Atom

    I believe the Bible agrees with you. Hebrews 8:5 "Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount." We are three...
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    Just What is the Zohar? New Thoughts

    I never knew there was such a thing. I did a quick scan of Wikipedia... Christian scholars interpreted Kabbalistic ideas from "a distinctly Christian perspective, linking Jesus Christ, His atonement, and His resurrection to the Ten Sefirot" – the upper three Sephirot to the hypostases of the...
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    Just What is the Zohar? New Thoughts

    The Sephiroth Tree depicts the final beast of Revelation... Revelation 13:1 "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy." The Ten Sephirot are the Ten...
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