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Greetings Ciel, Perhaps there are 2 self's ? lol JM

Hello Shadowman, I don't. There is no need to reconcile those things. Discover God and you will not need a book that needs reconciling. There is enough in the book that points to God. There is no requirement to accept it as truth except in the mind of men and organizations. Shall we believe...

Dondi, It seems to me, as you know, that we have been given choice and also that God Loves us unconditionally. Threfore God REQUIRES nothing in return. God has no requirements. That is the nature of Love. It is complete and without need. Creation can only be what IT IS at this moment and will...

Hello Dondi, Perhaps I could but they would of course only be words as best as I can relate to my experience. During my new birth experience it was self-evidend to me that God/Love was never apart from me even though I had in my mind thought God/Love was (apart or separate from me). It was as...

Greetings Dondi, Understood, Thank you. Perhaps it might be accurate to say I have no doctrine. I neither said I believed in eternal punishment or didn't believe in eternal punishment. I said "God neither condones torture nor does God burn people after death." It seems to me that perhaps...

Hello Dondi, As a side note, it would be curteous of you not to bold my words when quoting them unless I have done the same in the original post. The reason being it effectively emphasizes one statement over another where no intent to do so was on the writers part. Thanks. Yes, I am familiar...

Good Evening BlaznFattyz, Not to ignore your post, I hear what you are saying and am familiar with those writings you quote yet I will reinterate my original statement of fact. "God neither condones torturing nor does God burn people after death." Peace and Love, JM

Hello Dondi, Perhaps in this case yes to the first question. Wether or not the rest of you all knows nothing of anything I cannot say. I do not know what you know and what you don't. I am just being direct here and not side-stepping shadowman's question. Only you yourself know if the the shoe...

Shadowman, No sidestepping here. Fact is God neither condones torturing nor does God burn people after death. Therefore your initial question of this thread remains irrelevant since it is based upon vainly puffed up imaginations of those who know nothing of the afterlife, hell, heaven or...

Hello Mindfreak666, IF by this comment you are concurring that I have, by giving my view, in anyway deprived you the right to hold a contrary opinion, then it seems to me you have given power to my words where none exists. However, in my view, you are free to do so. Love and Peace, JM

Originally Posted by JosephM In my view, (I do not speak for others here) It makes no difference whether you choose to believe that or not. God is self-evident (by all things that are made) to ALL even though men cannot agree on definitions. Hi Snoppy, Sorry you took it that way. I...

Mindfreak666, It seems to me that you believe in cause and effect. cause a. The producer of an effect, result, or consequence. You appear to believe in the unconditioned and absolute from your words. You seem to also believe in the conditiioned and your existence. You say the absolute or...

Mindfreak666, Your statement was that there is no proof of a supreme creator. All that exists comes from the unconditioned, unborn, the absolute. By nature it is a creator so that those things seen (regardless of whether they are illusions or not) are created from the things that are formless...

The Buddha might not agree as this is the essence of his teachings based on the Pali Canon recognized by Buddhist scholars as the oldest record of what the Buddha actually taught: Absolute changeless permanent reality, the unconditioned, itself alone is, all else has always been, is, and...

Good Post Juantoo3, I will add a quote from Sri Ramana Maharshi that is in my view relevant. "Under whatever name and form one may worship the Absolute Reality (God) , it is only a means for realizing It without name and form. That alone is true realization, wherein one knows oneself in...

Shadowman, There is no IF, God does not burn us in a place of torture at the drop of a dime. Therefore your question is irrelevant with no connection to the question of interpreting God's Love. Love in Christ, JM

Profound post Paul, Thanks, Love in Christ, JM

Shadowman, You are NOT your thoughts. You have described feelings of Love and then thoughts of torment. You have a choice to follow Love and disown or cast down contrary thoughts that oppose the knowledge of God as Love and Peace. Its YOUR CHOICE to believe and follow what you want. Decide...

Shadowman, No offence meant but you sound like a guy who can't forgive himself because he hasn't forgiven his parents and others from the past yet. Maybe its just me shadowman so if I am mistaken I apologize but I feel there is something you have against someone and as yet are unwilling to let...