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  1. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    I mean people who stood up for the truth. People who didn't just become mindless drones and just follow whatever they were told without any critical thinking. I worked with a lot of liberal medical staff. Some of them questioned what they were told because it didn't match up with what they...
  2. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    And I thank the people who stood up for actual science, stood up to their corrupt government, and who stood up to propaganda. Especially those who suspended their political views and relied on science and what they actually saw happening. Gaslighting and bullying are NOT science. I cited...
  3. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    1. My main points have been that I don't trust the government, pharmaceutical companies, and the media. So extreme! With this I have been standing up for individual medical rights. So insanely extreme! 2. The following statement is from the science article below: "Despite the rhetoric, no...
  4. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    I guess you didn't get my point. I would have immediately looked at what went right and what went wrong the last time we had a pandemic. I wouldn't have just repeated the same mistakes. I would have been honest. I would not have shamed those who were skeptics. I will repeat what I have been...
  5. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    You keep resorting to extremes. If one vaccine is not effective that does NOT mean that disease prevention research should stop right there and vaccines should be thrown out and we should go back to leeches and blood letting. What we are both saying (I assume, sorry for hijacking the response)...
  6. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    So waking up from a coma convinced you that you should only resist when the right boot is on your throat, but not when the left boot is on your throat. That is science for sure. This pandemic has taught me that we can't survive anything that requires just basic manners in order to survive...
  7. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    1. Yes, I am saying the same thing. We should have the option to refuse it, especially if our doctors advise us to do so. That is what I have been saying since the beginning of this argument. 2. You didn't read the article. We made the same mistakes we did in the past with other pandemics...
  8. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    That's what I want to know. Since you trust the government, pharmaceutical companies, and the media I figured you could find a difinitive answer. Everything I find is vague and doesn't give an actual percentage or number. Since it is "safe and effective", these numbers should be easily...
  9. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    1. I find it interesting what you claimed in another post about raising our children. You stated that you raised your kids to "think, read, learn and question authority." Here I am questioning authority and you are right there defending it. Everything you say is always in line with what a...
  10. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    "Common good"
  11. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    Key word here is "should". But if the entire process is being corrupted, continue on anyway? You and I differ on this. The government and media joined together to lie and disregard facts as "conspiracy theories". The blame is on them. If they are dishonest, which they are, then this breeds...
  12. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    1. Yes, let us use some actual sense. I'm not saying that my nation needs to suffer due to my own personal freedom. However, I am saying that I don't trust my own country, or any country, to try to use the excuse of "common good" for their actions. For example, I do NOT agree with Winston...
  13. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    Now compare that to the people who were killed by vaccines, especially Covid. Since you trust drug companies and government agencies, I'm sure they readily hand over this information. I'm also certain that they are more than forthcoming when it comes to people who have been permanently damaged...
  14. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    There was an outbreak of measles in Texas. Wil just shared an article about it. It is one of the largest outbreaks in a long time. But it was still small enough and contained to the point that only the local authorities had to get involved. It made national headlines.
  15. moralorel

    Ignoring Vaccines

    I assume your answer is pertaining to the public as a whole. I'm speaking about individual cases. As with any medications, sometimes an individual will have dangerous reactions to a vaccine. It is often hereditary. The good news is that we can often isolate the ingredient causing the...
  16. moralorel

    GODS: The Fabrication of a Theistic Mind

    This is his third account that I have encountered. The first 2 accounts that I encountered became inactive when him and I had a debate. We were debating about the discrepancy between his standard of evidence required of himself and the evidence he required of everyone else during debates...
  17. moralorel

    GODS: The Fabrication of a Theistic Mind

    I wasn't bothering you. Just hoping you could finally demonstrate to us your moral superiority.
  18. moralorel

    GODS: The Fabrication of a Theistic Mind

    I didn't ban you. Is that what happened? I had nothing to do with it. But you can come back to the other thread and answer the hard questions you failed to answer. Otherwise please stop criticizing others for having the same behaviors as you.
  19. moralorel

    Have you taught your children about other faiths?

    I live over a thousand miles from the ocean. I made sure my daughter and my son were able to experience it. When my wife was pregnant with our first son, she spent a lot of time by the ocean talking to him while he was in the womb. After he was born we took him there and he immediately fell...
  20. moralorel

    GODS: The Fabrication of a Theistic Mind

    Are you seriously claiming to be someone new who just showed up a few days ago?
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