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Amica I never said the view of Docetism on crucifixion was "equal" to that of Islam. I said it was similar. I follow only what historians say about religions. Historians know that religions influence each other, especially when they are in the same area. Millions of Christians are not...

The Docetes, a Christian heretical sect, had a view of the crucifixion very similar to that of Islam. See Wikipedia: "In Christianity, Docetism is the belief, regarded by most theologians as heretical, that Jesus did not have a physical body; rather, that his body was an illusion, as was his...

Pharma4ever There are many verses in the Koran that say that the eyes are the organs for seeing, the ears for hearing. Guess what is the organ for understanding and reasoning ? For the Koran it is the heart (and broadly speaking the chest) and not the brains. Is that another miracle of the...

Pharma4ever If you think that verse 6:125 is a miracle how do you explain that men receive Islam in their chests and hearts and not in their brains ? Where is the seat of understanding according to the Koran ?

There is a forum about real discussions. Once the discussion is under way you are moved to that forum.

Pico Of course a Muslim will say exactly the same of Islam.

Thanks a lot Aburaees. You explained perfectly my position.

Thipps I did not say not to use the Hadith, I just challenged Pharma to discuss Islam without resorting to the Hadith.

Pharma Muslims use the Sahih Hadith only because they have the same authority as the Quran. They would not use them if they had not that authority. Of course there are Hadith which have a lesser degree of authority and others no authority at all. Just try to discuss about Islam without...

I, Brian As far as I know from discussions on Muslim forums, Quran and Hadith have the same degree of authority to the point that I said (half jokingly) that Muslims have three or four Holy Books, not only one. Of course I mean only the Hadith that are recognized as true by a majority of...

Thipps as-salaamu 3alayka You can assert that the Bible has been corrupted. If you want to give proofs for that we would be interested by them. But do not give a non-proof like the 7 seven books difference between Protestants and Catholics. When Pico says Muhammad wrote the Quran he means...

Must Westerners in Muslim countries respect Muslim ways of living and believing ? Yes, of course. Must Muslims in Western countries respect our traditions of free speech and free thinking ? Yes, they must. Muslims are offended by the Muhammad cartoons. Do they realise that Westerners are also...

I correct myself: not Muslims, but Muslims on comparative religion forums. See the one who started the thread.

Muslims are haunted by their search of the "true" Gospel of Jesus which, they say, are not the corrupted Gospels you find in the New Testament. That explains the constant reference to the Gospel of Barnabas. Unfortunately for them, there is nothing of the quality of the NT Gospels around.

The discussion is never about the many "end times" that have not happened.

God's Kingdom always comes tomorrow and never today. When will this fallacy stop ?

Newagenerd Very interesting discussion. You say that God cannot be fragmented according to Jewish tradition, but he could be fragmented according to his own "tradition", that is his own free-will. It is not up to us to decide that God is like this or like that. He is as he wishes to be. I...

Re: Abraham est. Mecca, the Qu'ran bids no-entry for non-Muslims yet Guru Nanak visit That is ridiculous information. Makka/Bakka is over one thousand kilometers away from Palestine. Semitic languages are often close from one another so it is not extraordinary to find similar names, even with...

You say the signs of the last day have all appeared. Could you then set a date as to the precise coming of the Mahdi. Otherwise what would be the interest of talking about something which is always postponed to the (near) future?

Muslims follow God's word, whether in the Quran or in the Hadith. We all agree on that.