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  1. OupaPiet

    Religious books and a description of the Origins of the Universe according to science?

    Exactly. The allegory in this regard is that Allah is reflecting the Light from Muhammad. The Light is the source of Spiritual existence which lights the way for mankind. This allegory means that Muhammad is the one making up the story, and shines it off as if Allah exists. All I showed you is...
  2. OupaPiet

    Try the Trinity.

    Thank you! I am glad that you agree that the first Christians were Jewish. Even Paul and Peter went to Asia Minor, Greece etc. and preached in the Synagogues, and the people believed in Jesus after they investigated the scripture, and were babtised in the Name of Jesus, the Father and the Holy...
  3. OupaPiet

    Religious books and a description of the Origins of the Universe according to science?

    Sorry, I meant to reply to you. TNX for the link. I will read it later today.
  4. OupaPiet

    Religious books and a description of the Origins of the Universe according to science?

    T Thank you for the link of the Tablet of the Universe. I will read it later today.
  5. OupaPiet

    Religious books and a description of the Origins of the Universe according to science?

    To continue... OK, so now I knew that Zakir Naik was telling a huge lie about the Quran that supposedly knew that the Moon did not radiate its own light, but merely reflected light from the Sun. What the Muslim scholar tries to sell us ignorant listeners, is that the Light of the Sun is called a...
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    Really? So why did the Priests then persecute the Christians for at least 40 years after Jesus was resurrected? Where did all the people go that payed their tithes to the Temple? These same people followed the Apostles, who witnessed everything about Jesus' life, and even followed the Apostles'...
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    Why did they have to go to such extensive actions? Think about it. Here is a Man who went all over Samaria and Judea, performing miracles, and when he spoke whole villages came to listen to him. 5 000 men, with their wifes and children will be at least 12 000 people. Not only on one occasion...
  8. OupaPiet

    Try the Trinity.

    Well, for one Noah did exist and there was a global flood.
  9. OupaPiet

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    No, our souls did not pre exist. Man was descended from Adam, and their children . Where does the Quran or Bible say that man existed before Adam?
  10. OupaPiet

    Religious books and a description of the Origins of the Universe according to science?

    Thanks for your input. And I can see that you read a lot and are curious about the questions of origins. And I think what I am going to tell you will enhance your thinking to other dimensions. Just a small note, once I gave you my story, I will also give you my observation on the age of LIFE on...
  11. OupaPiet

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    And John knew Jesus. Dont forget that. Anyhow, coming back to the Quran as a revelation in stages, and it did not exist before Muhammad. 7: 106. And We have divided the Quran that you might recite it to the people at intervals. We send down descending. It is clear that here it says that Allah...
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    Religious books and a description of the Origins of the Universe according to science?

    A few years ago, I ventured into the claim that the Quran gave a detailed description on how Allah created the Universe. Or let me elaborate a bit more. An Islamic Scholar, Zakir Naik participated in a debate with Dr. William Campbell at the University of Chicago with the theme: 'the Bible, the...
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    Now why dont you know the religion of Islam. In Paradise with Allah is the Master slab where the Quran is chiseled out. And did Allah not say that He revealed this Quran to Muhammad as an answer to everything? Does Islam and the Quran not say that the Quran was not created? If you say Allah...
  14. OupaPiet

    Try the Trinity.

    I just saw the beginning, and thought I will come back to it at a later stage. TNX for reminding me.
  15. OupaPiet

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    Thank you for the agreement that God can not die. So, you agree that the Word / Logos / Mind of God is immortal. Then you should agree that the concept of the Trinity makes sense that the Human Body where the Word "Tabernacled" dwelled in here on earth in the human body, could die! But not the...
  16. OupaPiet

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    OK, if we ignore everything the Bible say about the Father, Word and Holy Spirit, you might have a point. But the carnal fact is that you are not the one that have any right to dictate to what God can and can not be. In such a case, you are creating your own god, and that is pure idolatory.
  17. OupaPiet

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    I always understood that the Brain and Mind are 2 different 'things'. I just never realized how. due to the fact I was always always told by Atheists that the Mind does not exist, but everything is a chemical electrical impulse controlled by physical cells in the brain. And they would check...
  18. OupaPiet

    Try the Trinity.

    You do not have to refer to God as anything else than your Father. The word Trinity is not in the Bible, yet the description was given by Christians to describe God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Anyone telling you that God is not the Father, Spirit and Word, is dumping the whole OT. Here is a...
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    I think such deep thinking needs a response. You dont have to read it if you dont want to. But from my point of view, you are correct. We can not fathom anything about the spiritual, for we are not in that environmant. However, we can reference to what was recorded in the scriptures we have...
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    So what if we dont have concrete proof that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote the 4 gospels with their own hands? So what if it was written in Greek and not Aramaic? There are many examples in the Bible that the prophets of old had scribes to write and record historical events, Moses had...
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