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Does anyone who is familiar with Maundy Thursday, the day during Holy Week which commemorates the last supper of the Messiah with the apostles know what part of Thursday that this took place - during the night time at the beginning of Thursday, or during the daytime toward the end of Thursday?

OK, I think I see what the problem is here. I'm talking the OP's issue (as clarified in subsequent posts) and Thomas is referring to off- topic issues.

Where did I ask anyone that?

You wrote that I am 'flogging a dead horse' with that argument. I didn't know what argument you were talking about. I asked if you might explain. To that you say "no". It leaves me with asking if there a particular reason why you won't explain.

To what argument are you referring? The only possible argument that I see would be whether or not any examples provided are actually examples.

But was there no part of a night time involved? Or was there no part of a daytime involved?

Likewise, that would be an issue for a different topic. Maybe you and Thomas can get together and come up with a new one.

That is an issue for a different topic. Perhaps you might start one.

I watched the sunrises for a week at the times given on the weather channel and I wasn't able to say that any of them could be characterized as being in darkness. Of course, that was just me; your milage may be different. But, at any rate, this discussion has been totally off topic, and needs...

I guess it depends. When does morning begin with relation to the sun?

Please show me where the word "morning" is in that sentence.

I am. And I still don't see where it says it was early in the morning. Apparently, we both are.

Sorry, I read it as John 20:1, not as 21:1 which is what we were discussing. And John 21:4 is not talking about Mary M's visit to the tomb.

And I repeat that I don't see where John says it was early in the morning.

So even though it was dark out, you're suggesting that "The first (day) of the week..." is referring to the daytime of a 12 hour calendar day.

I don't see where John says it was early in the morning.

What is your point with regard to post #278?

Good point if we go by John. However, the sun had risen if we go by Mark.

And those would be issues for a different topic.

I'm afraid your comments don't provide any examples which show that it was common to say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with an event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could be. Maybe you could start a new topic to discuss your findings.