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I honestly had no intention of trying to make the discussion about that. Seems to me that you are the one trying to make this about predeterminism, not me. But if you wish to go down that path... If any entity knows today what shirt I will wear tomorrow, and this entity can not possibly be...

I think it's very rare (bordering on impossible) for the odds to be exactly 50/50. But I would recognise that since each are equally acceptable, it's probably not going to be worth it to spend much time trying to reach a decision. I might just go for whichever shirt is closer.

Is any of that relevant? Is free will required to do that?

The fact that we can only make one decision (as opposed to doing two things) is irrelevant. Before we make the choice, the options are open to us. Let me put it this way... If I am trying to decide what shirt to wear, the red shirt or the blue shirt, then both the red shirt and the blue shirt...

I was clearly referring to how you have no option but to fall.

Exactly. You still have different options available to you.

Yes, I would agree that in that case, you are gonna go downwards, no free will there. Exactly. And if we are making choices, truly having choices to make, then we have free will and have multiple options each with a non-zero probability. How did you determine that there is only ONE option that...

First of all, let's define what we mean by "intelligence", shall we? Then how can you know anything about him at all?

That's not the point. The point is that you COULD choose to main in bed in such cases. As we established (back in post 1110 and 1112), for free to exist, we must have more than one option, and each option must have a non-zero probability. So since the chance of staying in bed in these cases...

If by "reason" you mean cause, then no. Things evolved due to the pressures that were applied to populations over many generations. However, if by "reason" you mean "conscious intent," then I'll point out there is no strong evidence of anything that is guiding evolution through its intent. So...

Why do you think a person would not have any option in these cases? For example, people have wet the bed, you know, even as adults. Yeah, it's highly unlikely that a person would stay in bed in these cases, but it's not literally impossible.

Ah, I see you are moving the goalposts. The fact that we don't know how it happened does not mean it is due to a deity.

But in such a case, the character in the movie has no choice but to do what they are predestined to do. They are slaves just performing actions that they are not responsible for.

Can you give me an example of a situation where there is no other option but to get out of bed? One where the probability is literally zero for any other course of action?

So, in order for us to have free will, then there must be two or more options, each of which has a non-zero probability?

I think that in order to have a useful; discussion about this, we need to clarify exactly what "free will" means.

The presence of mutations and natural selection is not a hypothesis. We can detect mutations. We can see first hand how different variations affect the reproductive fitness of different organisms.