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What do you all think about the "lost books of Lao Tzu"?

I view it as an omnipresent force that is constantly intervening. Everything that happens is Tao, everything that is, is Tao. It just isn't an intelligent being, it is the encompassment of all things.

The man I knew who could do it was actually a ninpo shidoshi. I suppose it isn't a normal thing, I guess from his humility I supposed it was normal. I apologize for making it seem like any master could do it. Let's forget that then. Have you read the study on the Tibetan monks doing Tum Mo?

You have never seen someone do that? I have. Well, perhaps I should say "Ask a tibetan monk who can control their body temperature what chi is about." Is that better? I'm sure you believe they can do that, Harvard did a study a couple years ago on it...

But Tao also can not be understood with words, so if Tao and God are one, the bible does no good. Tao is emptiness, it is effortless action, it is nature. There is no good or evil in Tao. That I believe is a HUGE difference between Tao and God. God is good, loving. Tao is not.

Except some theists give it gender, emotions, has god speak, etc... This is not tao.

That is a difficult question Emily. We first have to look at the concept of Tao. Since taoists don't have a concept like the western idea of god. Tao is the unknowable, inconceivable force that causes everything, and is everything. It is like emptiness, untouchable yet it defines the...

Since both terms need to be defined first, and since Tao cannot be defined, I can see that the comparison cannot be complete. If we think of how the chinese see things, and the way western thought sees things. We can see that they are not the same ideas. But to me, I believe god is just a...

Sorry Canuck, that claim to divinity didn't prove a thing. Only a theory with no evidence to back it up. He took a quote from Haille and turned it around to what he wanted to say. Haille said he is not divine. It is completely clear. The thing is, if any man can become one with jah, than...

But he sure made it clear that he wasn't divine. You know the whole "I am a man" not a god, "I am mortal", nothing special like a god. "Never pretend that the human being is emanated from a deity." Your leader is telling you not to believe he is descended from christ. I fear there is little...

But it is just one thing Hyksos, it is like water thats source is the ocean. It gets evaporated as gas, falls as rain and flows down many different rivers, tributaries, streams, and finally goes back to the ocean (tao). It is one thing, it is what comprises the oneness that is Tao.

"The first article of the Ethiopian Constitution says he is descendant of King Solomon (he reaffirms this). He also claimed, that he could talk to animals (they could understand him and reply.) He stated that when he was baptized at three days old he saw the world through adults eyes (he could...

Very interesting Canuck, ok another question. If Selassie wasn't a Rasta, than who do you worship, Christ or Sellassie? Did Selassie ever claim to be christ? Did he ever claim the things you posted? Or was it claimed only by Rastas?

Haile Selassie, Emperor of Ethiopia (1930 – 1974) I have a quick question, why do you see this man as divine? He wasn't even a rasta, nor did he ever agree with what the rasta's believed? Actually, I've read somewhere that he disagreed completely with them. I also read that before Haile...

You don't need to use the chinese view, the terms god and devil already propose a dualistic idea. But to use ancient taoist terms to talk about god and the devil just doesn't work. Especially since they don't believe in either, so your intent is lost within choice of terms that have no use for...

No threat, I like what your trying to say. I just think people will understand you better if you keep it within your tradition. If you start bringing in ancient chinese concepts which are hundreds of years older than christianity, people may not listen to you. I think if you use different...

I understand you points Postmaster. And I think they are quite interesting, but please don't use taoist terminology. You may think this world is more evil than good, but not everyone does. I actually believe it fluctuates, and changes in different places. Actually, taoists don't even view...

Here's the thing Postmaster. Taoists don't believe in an afterlife. The yin yang demonstrates this universe, not an afterlife. After a taoist dies, they normally believe they will become one with Tao. But you must understand that your christian ideas will not fit in here. Because as you...

The idea of Yin Yang comes the taoists idea of "understanding tao." It represents the dualistic nature of the universe. Light, dark, hot, cold, dry, wet, etc... I no way does it describe an afterlife. Taoists don't even believe in an afterlife. All becomes one with tao, or becomes immortal...

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