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Well what do you say about Shabir Ally or Hamza Yusuf they are definately not "salafists" (actually wahabits). Evene Ibn Taymiyyah (btw I dislike him) who was one of the most conservative scholars and his students came to conclusion that Hell must somehow wanish at the end. Btw I am not much in...

I still disagree with such rigid interepretation I hold the opinion that none who is true believer this means who believes in Tawheed will stay in hell forever and for how long Allah knows best. Chapter (2) sūrat l-baqarah (The Cow) Sahih International: Indeed, those who believed and those...

Yes you are unfortunatelly true. many but not all of the so called "sahih" Buhari and Muslim hadiths ( collected in the 9th century AD so 200 years after Prophet's departure from this world,in hear-say way by people from non arabic speaking backgrounds) are just another fabrications which were...

Well diifferent shaikhs have different opinions. I Just found this ayat puzzling you can check it for yuorself. In regard do denial of anything from Kur'an I agree, but intrepretations are different.

I knew that you would disagree with majority of things i had written but I actually wanted to pint out the differneces between christian and islamic views. Again it also depends on denomination i.e. on school of thaought in christianity and islam repectively, because in baught religions there...

I don't agree here, because The "that is just how it is" is not without God. God is the absolute Inifinite, unlimited there is nothing outside Him. Here we come again to gnostics and their techings of a cosmic error whre they actually missed their point. The question arises how can that All Good...

You are making very good pints. I would generally agree with you about gnostics but when I mentioned gnosis and gnosticism I didn't mean the 2nd-4th century gnostics well at least not the Sethians or alike. Or btw. the medieval pseudognosticsm ( like Kathars, Bogomils and... perhaps my medieval...

See the Platonic model is somewhat simpler than islamic model but there are similarites. The eternal soul in islamic esoterics as I've mentioned accepts to perform the task ( it still a mistery what role we play on cosmic level) then the creation of body started, because human is now...

Well let's hope so, actually if you lose hope in Divine Mercy ( regardles your wrong doings) then you will be doomed to hell.

Very interesiting how many similarities are there. Islamic esoterics also relies to a large extent on platonic and neoplatonist tradition. When you mentioned St thomas Aquinas who was by the way influenced by medieval islamic philosopher Ibn Rushd or known in the west as Averroi, as well as by...

I don't know should I start this tread on Islam disscusions bacause it concerns also christians, namley eternal Jahannam or Hell. In the Holy Qur'an there are few striking verses that have been always puzzling for me Pharphrase :"... and there will be (paradise) untill Heavens and Earth...

Well, if someone is ortodox it does not mean that he/she has fully wright in fact many things by those "orthodox" today are wrong. What I've stated in my post is that none who believed in one and oly One God will stay in hell forever , they will come out, and this verse has been largley...

First of All it is your faith or your believe and if you want to go even further "up" it your knowledge (gnosis) of God that brings you to /paradise/haeven jannah. All monotheists will definately enter it at certain point so they will not be condemned to hell eternally (btw. I have intention to...

You are Right. Many stories or Hadiths are later on fabrication or ascribed sayings and certain thruths from the ancients (what's not bad but still its not good to lie on Prophet savs) althaough we look at the chain of transmitters and we consider it authentic instead of looking at the content...

I would agree with you up to a certain degree, but when it comes to Will of God Muslims just like christians are quite divided upon this issue, submission to God actually means the aknowledgment of already existing submission and when you became aware of it then you will find peace ( that's...

Hi For those who think that Islam has nothing to do with gnosis are totally mistaken. In fact one can spot it in the Quranic verses if you analyse it deeper (Qur'an is the book that needs to be analysed and studied not only recited and read with nice voice and melody). The Godd in the Qur'an is...