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I see we are going no where with our discussion... You say there is no "cause"...yet surely the cause (for knowing Jesus loves you), is He told you so. Well, we know where we both stand. BTW, I'm not a Lutheran or Calvinist...nor I am a "Christian"...as is commonly understood. If...

You contradict yourself. You say Love can't be forced (even though God NEVER forces anything)...then you imply it is GIVEN.... What if Love isn't GIVEN? How then will we have it?

Explain. You can type with your ring finger BECAUSE God gave you a ring finger...He has also caused you not to lose it (in an accident for example). You know Jesus Christ wants you to live just because God put you in a location and a period of time (year) where it is available to you. This...

Please...just leave my posts as they are (my previous threads on this subject lasted over ten pages). I don't have the time (nor the patience) to take this discussion further....I have an essay to complete. However, your contribution to this thread is very well appreciated (not just by me I'm...

Look guys. I have a very important essay to complete... ...yet, I just can't resist. Please stop asking questions... God has consigned Himself to His own will. God has and continues to make prophecies...God has and WILL do many things that He says He will do. ALL the Bible (and...

Actually it isn't. Notice this is the only thread I've posted in, which I didn't use any Scriptures. Then your understanding of predetermination is erroneous. Just because something is predetermined it doesn't mean we should all know why something happens in the first place... The illusion...

I mentioned I would no longer post in this thread, but I as your post is in regards to another subject... The Scriptures (the Bible is inerrant because of mistranslations) are inerrant. Do you want me to explain to you why?

So Eve is Spiritual discerned BECAUSE she was without knowledge? ...And you ALSO agree Adam and Eve were NATURAL? With these two quotes you have stated you believe Adam and Eve were SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED because they were NATURAL? Another contradiction: "But the natural man [which...

Then surely it is absurd. What's next? Disabled people and those born with heart conditions chose to be born with them? You can't originate a shape or form that does not exist. I believe God is Sovereign. So everything is predetermined. I am removing myself from this discussion and...

Are you blind? Read that post again! I just proved Jesus is the firstfruit in the Genesis. I just proved Jesus is the "I AM" of the old testament. How can I prove Jesus is in the plural?....THIS IS OBVIOUS!!! You confuse yourself. I already posted: "Knowing this first, that no...

Prove it! When did you make this decision? Can you draw a shape that does not exist? If you can, do so now (with your mystical free will) and send it to me.

How many times...shall I repeat I HAVE ALREADY PROVED EVE SINNED BEFORE SHE ATE THE FRUIT. "But the natural man receives NOT the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are SPIRITUALLY DISCERNED" (I Cor. 2:14). Natural...

Why do you always accuse me of not looking up the original words? If you are going to quote me quote me COMPLETELY! Did you notice my emphasis on CAPITALS, the bold and underlining on the words "Greek" and "translators"? What say you now? Didn't you? What say you now? I read this...

What's your point? You chose but you choice was influenced...namely, you did not want to die. So you never really had a "choice" in the first place. Can someone choose to do anything if they do not exist? No, we must exist first...which is not our choice, subsequently (to our existence)...

The scriptures are the Word of God...the Word of God is Spirit it is also Life. "It is the spirit that quickens [gives life]; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are life" (John 6:63). "But this spoke He of the SPIRIT…" (John 7:39). "And...

Are you suggesting something that is "FREE" has CONSTRAINTS? The American Heritage College Dictionary: "free will n. 1. The ability or discretion to choose; free choice. 2. The power of making free choices that are UNCONSTRAINED by external circumstances or by an agency such as fate or divine...

What about Paul? "But Saul was ravaging the church, and entering house after house, he dragged off men and women and committed them to prison." (Acts. 8:3) "Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, BLAMELESS." (Phil. 3:6). aning out your...

Why do you constantly accuse me of this? I have looked at the translation/s, notice the square brackets. The scriptures can prove anything? Where did I insist the scriptures can prove anything? What? I believe the scriptures were inspired by God. This is concerning the Word of God not "pi...

Hi Jimmer, I will try to answer as well as I can. The first part is correct the last part (in bold) is not. The number seventy-seven has a connection with completeness...as the number "seven" is God's number for completeness... "And on the SEVENTH day God ended his work which he...

This is just your opinion? Did you read my previous posts...I already proved Eve committed sins BEFORE she ate the fruit. Then you fail to acknowledge the parable. It was not possible for Satan NOT TO SIN -- he was created for the express purpose of being God’s Adversary, and so, of...